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Ghost-rider Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 19 Location : Houston Points : 4163 Registration date : 2013-07-25
| Subject: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:35 pm | |
| I have NOT been here in a long while . I need a little help I am looking for the oem low beam light that went out on my bike today. Can someone provide the part no.. I do not like driving at night with high beam on. Thank you Ghost_rider Greg |
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Dale N. Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1999 Age : 78 Location : Princeton, MN Points : 6074 Registration date : 2014-02-13
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:44 pm | |
| Hope this works for you.
https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/honda/scooter/2010/fsc600a-ac-silver-wing-abs/headlight |
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of posts : 4415 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10744 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:34 am | |
| The high beam and low beam bulbs are "standard", single filament, H7 bulbs. You can find H7's at any auto supply store or Walmart.
Because this is the first time you've done this job; be aware that the socket adapter (item 7 in above illustration) needs to be removed from the original bulb and reused on the replacement bulb. It can be confusing when the replacement bulb is compared to the original and the original bulb appears to be several inches longer. It's because that (#7) adapter is still attached to the original bulb. Just pull the bulb and adapter apart and put the adapter on the new bulb. HTH
Tim |
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GHM-PM Site Admin
Number of posts : 2622 Age : 72 Location : Bullhead City, AZ Points : 7511 Registration date : 2012-05-17
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:49 am | |
| I usually buy a two-pack of the H7 bulbs and place one in a solid container so I carry a spare at all times. If you stay with the halogen bulbs they are cheap (10-20 bucks USD) for 2. |
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Ghost-rider Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 19 Location : Houston Points : 4163 Registration date : 2013-07-25
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:19 pm | |
| Thank you for the help I forgot it was the H7 bulb that would work. I am NOT mechanicily inclined liked my spelling lol. So I will pick up the bulbs in the next few days and have my brother take care of that. He took care of the bulb burn out on my 04 swing that I did have. One more thing I have seen some posts on here about the HID lights just curious are they brighter? And what would I have to do IF I changed to those HID lights?? Thank you Ghost rider Greg |
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of posts : 4415 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10744 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:56 am | |
| HID lights are considerably brighter than halogen type bulbs.
HID kits are basically plug n' pay. The most puzzlesome "problem" is where to physically attach the ballast behind the front fairing.
I probably have the DTMoto works on the shelf in my shed. PM me if you are interested.
Tim |
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Mech 1 twa Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1384 Location : Allentown PA. Points : 4728 Registration date : 2016-01-02
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:24 pm | |
| I've been using Philips H7 X-treme Vision +130 bulbs for 3 years not a burn out so far. Nice and bright white light looks like a OE bulb just brighter.
Tried Silver Star in other things always seem to burn out a bit faster.
HID has issues with mounting and wiring things. Illegal in many states if it's not OEM installed. |
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Ghost-rider Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 19 Location : Houston Points : 4163 Registration date : 2013-07-25
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:44 pm | |
| Thank you for the info on the H7 bulbs and the HID I was just curious about those HID. Sounds like they maybe kind of hard due to the fact of the ballast placement. YES I would like BRIGHTER head lights on low beam. THANK you all for the info I forgot what a great group of people on here helping each other out. Ghost rider Greg |
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heinlein Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 10 Location : Placerville, CA Points : 2247 Registration date : 2018-10-06
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:11 am | |
| Has anyone tried LED "bulbs" in a Swing? https://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/48-Platinum-H7-LED-Headlight-Bulb_p_86.html |
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Seadog Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 51 Location : Norfolk, England Points : 3218 Registration date : 2016-03-25
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:30 pm | |
| HID lights are brighter, but please don't do it! Never mind the ballast and wiring, unless the headlamp is designed for them (and the Silverwing headlamp is not) they are a pain for other drivers and riders because they are very poorly focused and shine in all directions (including into others' eyes) on what should be dipped beam. (Perhaps not so much a problem in areas with less traffic density than we have in the UK.)
The original headlamp focuses the beam from what is effectively a pointof light from the filament in a traditional incandescent bulb. HID lamps have an area of light, not a point, so the focusing doesn't work properly and the light spreads well beyond the intended dipped beam cut-off.
There has been a bit of a craze for HID light conversions in the UK for a few years now. They are illegal here unless the headlamp is designed for them, but it hasn't been illegal to sell or buy the conversion kit. It really is annoying and dangerous for other road users. Fortunately, I think the MOT test (annual safety inspection for vehicles over 3 years old) has been tightened up to check for illegal fitting of these, and/or they've just gone out of fashion. Either way it's quite a relief that there seem to be fewer of them about now.
The extra bright incandescent lamps such as the Philips H7 X-treme Vision +130 (that Mech 1 twa mentions) are a good improvement, and a simple straight swop. I had these on a previous bike, and will put them in my Silverwing as soon as either one of the original bulbs goes, or if I ever get further down my to-do list. |
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john grinsel Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 3314 Age : 85 Points : 9465 Registration date : 2009-08-18
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:57 pm | |
| I would just replace lite with stock OEM from Honda dealer.....that is what bike is designed and approved for. Want latest in lites----get new bike. |
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bikehiker Silver Wing Rider
Number of posts : 433 Location : New Cumberland PA Points : 3181 Registration date : 2017-09-07
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:03 pm | |
| Seadog makes a good point: "they [HID] are a pain for other drivers and riders because they are very poorly focused and shine in all directions (including into others' eyes) on what should be dipped beam."
You might respond, "Well, this is just what I want--to be seen." True, but besides being highly impolite, you could create a dangerous situation, especially from old farts like me. As we age, many of us lose a lot of sight and coordination, making it much harder to drive at night, especially against those dastardly high beams and high "low"beams. I tend to lose my lane direction while driving against extra bright headlights at night, and many of these are on LOW BEAM. If you haven't been there yet, you WILL get there unless YOU DIE YOUNG.
One of the most frustrating things that we all endure today is the fancy headlights on these new cars with the often "optional at a higher price" brighter headlights. While it seems to be a one-upmanship LOOK-AT-ME thing, maybe some day insurance companies will call attention to the danger of these annoying and unsafe headlights when they observe enough safety studies that show more accidents caused by these bright lights. Maybe that's why some states do not allow certain types of lighting.
Lights are necessary for safety, but bright lights, especially the kind described by Seadog, can be unsafe.
And while I'm at it regarding lighting, I often have forgotten to turn my headlights on in fog or that most dangerous period between light and dark, or dark and light. So why would you pay $50,000+ for a new fancy vehicle with flashy annoying headlights, but that same vehicle does NOT come with DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS? How much more would it cost to install daytime running lights on that expensive vehicle? It has a heated steering wheel, but NO DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS? Many new pickup trucks seem to lack that safety addition. Maybe the bigger the vehicle, the less we need lights, because I won't get hurt slamming into another vehicle in my big truck. Forget about the other guy who couldn't see you. When I bought a used Miata 20 years ago, the first thing I did was to install daytime running lights, costing me under $20. While more car makers are including running lights, there are still too many of these expensive vehicles on the road without daytime running lights, especially with colors like fog gray, snow white white, or rain blue.
Here in Pennsylvania we have a law that if you need to use your windshield wipers, your headlights must be on. Many scofflaws ignore this law, because it rarely seems to be enforced.
Next time you are driving/riding in a close-to-dark or low-visibility situation, notice how many cars coming against you do not have any lighting. It won't take long. Having no lights can be just as dangerous as having too much light. You may really appreciate this point when you make a left turn in front of a car on a dark or foggy day and be the cause of an accident by turning in front of an oncoming car because you didn't see it.
Ok, done venting. |
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Dale N. Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1999 Age : 78 Location : Princeton, MN Points : 6074 Registration date : 2014-02-13
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:24 am | |
| I had a 1980 Yamaha 850 that had a flat line headlight bulb. By that I mean the bulb was like a D laying on its side. I also had a pair of very bright driving lights on it mounted to the roll bars. I adjusted the high beam so that it would shine a bit lower than the top of a car's trunk. It didn't bother anybody but was bright enough to be a great low beam. I used the driving lights for my high beams which worked very well. They would light up the road at least 1/4 mile in front of me and down into the ditches on a 2 lane road. They also got oncoming cars attention when they didn't want to dim theirs. I never had anybody flash their lights at me with my bright "low" beam either. |
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XDM© Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 125 Location : Philly, Pennsylvania Points : 2036 Registration date : 2019-10-20
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:46 am | |
| im looking to upgrade my lights to LED, i am severely unhappy with dim stock bulbs, now i read a lot here that LED lights dont fit well in the enclosure, is that true? also i read that if you get leds that are lower voltage then the stock you will stress out the electric system as the voltage is fixed and does not alternate for lower voltages. how much of that is true?
i installed a LED upgrade for my old 50cc chinese scooter back then and it was plug and play, worked great. |
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Meldrew Visiting Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 4218 Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK Points : 9445 Registration date : 2010-11-16
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:22 am | |
| Severely unhappy with stock bulbs, it's far simpler to update them with the latest from Osram or other bulb manufacturers. I changed the stock bulbs on my Silver Wing a couple of years ago before I sold it and was pleased with the improvement.
As for LED replacements, a lot of the bulbs/lamps or whatever the correct name is are an expensive gamble if you can fit them in a reflector and wiring system designed 20 years ago specifically for halogen bulbs. A lot of these LED bulbs aren't road legal either, and you'll just be dazzling and pissing off other road users like those bright sparks that used to fit HID lights.
I've got full LED lights on my 2018 Forza, which include two dip and one high beam headlights. They work well enough at night but I'd say they don't throw a beam as far ahead as the halogen Osram Night Breaker bulbs I uprated the Silver Wing to.
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XDM© Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 125 Location : Philly, Pennsylvania Points : 2036 Registration date : 2019-10-20
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:32 am | |
| - Meldrew wrote:
- Severely unhappy with stock bulbs, it's far simpler to update them with the latest from Osram or other bulb manufacturers. I changed the stock bulbs on my Silver Wing a couple of years ago before I sold it and was pleased with the improvement.
As for LED replacements, a lot of the bulbs/lamps or whatever the correct name is are an expensive gamble if you can fit them in a reflector and wiring system designed 20 years ago specifically for halogen bulbs. A lot of these LED bulbs aren't road legal either, and you'll just be dazzling and pissing off other road users like those that bright sparks that used to fit HID lights.
I've got full LED lights on my 2018 Forza, which include two dip and one high beam headlights. They work well enough at night but I'd say they don't throw a beam as far ahead as the halogen Osram Night Breaker bulbs I uprated the Silver Wing to.
Ok after a long in depth research i think i will go with the Philips RacingVision, it seems to be the brightest halogen before HID category |
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of posts : 4415 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10744 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:27 am | |
| Please let us know how you get on with these RacingVision bulbs. |
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oldwingguy Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1935 Location : Hocking Hills U.S.A. Points : 5358 Registration date : 2016-01-29
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:33 am | |
| I'm not sure any other bulb but OEM style / physical size will give all the results one is looking for, brighter doesn't always mean better as bulbs and reflectors are to be matched design wise to give proper beam direction. I've not modified nor added to this bike but others I've just added a separate pair with it's own switch for rural night time driving, deer and other critters are plentiful here and require due diligence as much from the sides as down the road. The is one thing I've noticed referring to Dales post and that's the " cut off " light beam, our Subaru has those and others too, in hilly terrain if one or the other is running on high beams it's more than likely one or both of the drivers will end up getting an eyeful of @#% bright. Why? just because of the cut off, older lights diffuse light more giving that glow / warning before the hill crest. |
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of posts : 4415 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10744 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:16 am | |
| - oldwingguy wrote:
- . The is one thing I've noticed referring to Dales post and that's the " cut off " light beam, our Subaru has those and others too, in hilly terrain if one or the other is running on high beams it's more than likely one or both of the drivers will end up getting an eyeful of @#% bright. Why? just because of the cut off, older lights diffuse light more giving that glow / warning before the hill crest.
Further to that. The new HID auto lights are “focused” by those thick coke-bottle lenses. Whereas adding a HID or LED bulb to the Silverwing will cause that increased light to ‘diffuse’ all over creation due to the mismatched bulb “element” and reflector. |
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Dale N. Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1999 Age : 78 Location : Princeton, MN Points : 6074 Registration date : 2014-02-13
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:38 pm | |
| I have to correct my previous comment.
The bulb was round but the beam was like a laying down D. It actually worked great. High beam would shine way down the road while low beam was low enough to not blind anyone but I could still see nicely. I hope that's clearer than mud. |
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oldwingguy Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1935 Location : Hocking Hills U.S.A. Points : 5358 Registration date : 2016-01-29
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:31 am | |
| - Dale N. wrote:
- I have to correct my previous comment.
The bulb was round but the beam was like a laying down D. It actually worked great. High beam would shine way down the road while low beam was low enough to not blind anyone but I could still see nicely. I hope that's clearer than mud. those that have the D do. These Subaru head lights have the steering feature too, neat looks around the corners with some light that helps the critter problem. The WORST lights are those on any jacked up truck, worse that semi trucks or buses whatever, seems they forget to adjust the headlights after they ad the lift kits. |
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Meldrew Visiting Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 4218 Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK Points : 9445 Registration date : 2010-11-16
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:50 am | |
| Over here it's car drivers that switch on their high intensity rear fog lamps when there isn't a trace of fog or mist about, the ones that don't dip their high beams to approaching traffic, and the fantasists that think they're rally drivers with a blazing display of high-intensity spotlights.
Of course bikers aren't blameless either, unless you're on an empty road, there's no need to use high beam all the time especially in daylight. We all know the usual 'be safe be seen' stuff', and using it as an excuse to give other road users a face full of high beam is as smug and selfish as the 'loud pipes save lives' mantra. |
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Mech 1 twa Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1384 Location : Allentown PA. Points : 4728 Registration date : 2016-01-02
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:33 pm | |
| - Mech 1 twa wrote:
- I've been using Philips H7 X-treme Vision +130 bulbs for 3 years not a burn out so far. Nice and bright white light looks like a OE bulb just brighter.
Tried Silver Star in other things always seem to burn out a bit faster.
HID has issues with mounting and wiring things. Illegal in many states if it's not OEM installed. Philips lasted 3 plus years but low beam went this summer. High beam really never on. Higher the output shorter the life of bulb. All bulbs get dimmer with life. Let us know …….. |
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exavid Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2658 Age : 81 Location : Medford, Oregon Points : 8397 Registration date : 2009-07-17
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:49 pm | |
| I've discovered a 'dim bulb' on my Silver Wing. But it's only present when I ride it. |
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Racer83L Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 25 Location : Long Island, NY Points : 1803 Registration date : 2020-01-17
| Subject: Re: 2010 silverwing low beam head LIGHT Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:01 am | |
| My new to me silverwing headlight was adjusted too low, I raised it up a bit using the same method I have on any car I have ever owned and it made a tremendous difference. |
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