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+8zrx212 1Wingman1 Dale N. MIRONWORKER Easyrider SPCK111 Cosmic_Jumper joebillybobinark 12 posters |
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joebillybobinark Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 82 Location : benton, ar Points : 2875 Registration date : 2017-04-19
| Subject: Power to gps handlebar mounted Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:36 am | |
| I've searched for directions to run power lead from handlebars thru stem to battery (not using the left glovebox)
Once the handlebar Tupperware is removed, how hard is it to snake wires to battery? Follow frame down then around gas tank?
Thanks! |
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of posts : 4415 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10744 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:03 am | |
| Best to remove the left floor skirt and left rear panel. Fish the wires along the floor frame and then up between/along side the left cubby pocket and radiator.
Rather than crowd the battery + terminal and tight fitting battery cover I added a terminal to the hot side of the starter relay, under the rubber cover (the other end of that battey hot wire). That will get you a non-switched, hot-all-the-time, lead.
I also ran a 2nd hot wire to a switched relay which I mounted above the ECM. That switched hot wire runs forward and is used for other circuits (spot lights, heated grips, etc).
You can also "T" off that 1st hot wire to feed a cigarette lighter / power outlet inside the left cubby.
Don't forget to add fuses to your new circuits.
Tim |
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SPCK111 Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 4 Location : UK South East Points : 2250 Registration date : 2018-09-30
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:19 am | |
| Easiest way to do this is to put a piglet spade connector on the front brake light switch an take the power from there. Done it on all my bikes and keeps the wiring to a minimal. Also powers down with ignition so no flat battery |
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Easyrider Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1013 Age : 74 Location : HI Points : 4350 Registration date : 2015-12-18
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:19 pm | |
| I added a fused panel under the seat next to the battery cover. All my electrical add-ons terminate there except for when it needs to be controlled by the ignition switch. That way I have a single location to inspect if any of my add-ons fail. I carry spare fuses just in case. |
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MIRONWORKER Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 11 Location : Milwaukee WI Points : 1164 Registration date : 2021-09-25
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:29 am | |
| - SPCK111 wrote:
- Easiest thing to do is use a piglet spade connector and take a feed from the front brake light power feed near the front brake lever. Very easy to do a keeps the wiring to a minimum. Done it lots of times. Also can’t drain the battery as feed is controlled by ignition.
NEED HELP ON THIS GMEDREK@NETZERO.COM |
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MIRONWORKER Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 11 Location : Milwaukee WI Points : 1164 Registration date : 2021-09-25
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:31 pm | |
| - SPCK111 wrote:
- Easiest way to do this is to put a piglet spade connector on the front brake light switch an take the power from there. Done it on all my bikes and keeps the wiring to a minimal. Also powers down with ignition so no flat battery
WHICH ONE EXACTLY IS THE FRONT BRAKE LIGHT, THE 4 PLUGS? |
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of posts : 4415 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10744 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:15 pm | |
| - MIRONWORKER wrote:
NEED HELP ON THIS GMEDREK@NETZERO.COM Get a 1/4” piggyback wire terminal (AutoZone, Advance Auto, O’Reilly, etc). Attach (crimp / solder) the positive lead ( +) from the GPS harness to the piggyback terminal. Mate the piggyback terminal (with the GPS wire) to the Black/Brown (Bl/Bk) wire and terminal of the right side brake light switch. Attach the other ( -) GPS wire to an appropriate location on the Silverwing frame. The GPS will be powered only when the ignition is ON. Please turn the Caps Lock on your keyboard OFF. It is considered rude to type in all uppercase letters. |
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of posts : 4415 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10744 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:51 pm | |
| - Cosmic_Jumper wrote:
- MIRONWORKER wrote:
NEED HELP ON THIS GMEDREK@NETZERO.COM Get a 1/4” piggyback wire terminal (AutoZone, Advance Auto, O’Reilly, etc). Attach (crimp / solder) the positive lead (+) from the GPS harness to the piggyback terminal. Mate the piggyback terminal (with the GPS wire) to the Black/Brown (Bl/Bk) wire and terminal of the right side brake light switch. Attach the other (-) GPS wire to an appropriate location on the Silverwing frame.
The GPS will be powered only when the ignition is ON.
Please turn the Caps Lock on your keyboard OFF. It is considered rude to type in all uppercase letters.
Or, alternatively, use Posi Tap wire connectors for 20-22 ga wire —available at the same sources. No crimping or soldering. Insert over the Bk/Br wire as in Step 1. Then the GPS + wire as in Step 3. |
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Dale N. Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1999 Age : 78 Location : Princeton, MN Points : 6074 Registration date : 2014-02-13
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:26 pm | |
| I love those Posi-Tap connectors!! They work great. |
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MIRONWORKER Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 11 Location : Milwaukee WI Points : 1164 Registration date : 2021-09-25
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:17 am | |
| thank you much, thanks to your help and taking the time, i think i got it this time. no rudeness intended with hi cap,thanks again. never been a biker,but love my silverwing recently picked up this summer Get a 1/4” piggyback wire terminal (AutoZone, Advance Auto, O’Reilly, etc). Attach (crimp / solder) the positive lead ( +) from the GPS harness to the piggyback terminal. Mate the piggyback terminal (with the GPS wire) to the Black/Brown (Bl/Bk) wire and terminal of the right side brake light switch. Attach the other ( -) GPS wire to an appropriate location on the Silverwing frame. The GPS will be powered only when the ignition is ON. Please turn the Caps Lock on your keyboard OFF. It is considered rude to type in all uppercase letters. [/quote] Or, alternatively, use Posi Tap wire connectors for 20-22 ga wire —available at the same sources. No crimping or soldering. Insert over the Bk/Br wire as in Step 1. Then the GPS + wire as in Step 3. [/quote] |
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1Wingman1 Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 126 Age : 82 Location : Jacksonville, Florida Points : 4457 Registration date : 2013-01-19
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:51 pm | |
| I probably missed it somewhere but I hope someone said that the GPS leads should not be cut so as to remove the voltage converter that many manufacturers use.
I usually program a destination in my garage at night so I decided to use an unswitched wire on the handlebar. Then I don't drain the bike battery with lights. I can also keep the gps fully charged if I want to unhook it for use in the car. I mounted the gps and started wrapping the wires around the column just below the handlebars and spliced into handlebar power and connected to ground on the handlebar mounting. Cable ties hold the wiring neatly in place without rubbing and everything about the gps turns with the steering and I didn't need to cut any gps power lead. Can easily be removed.
About that caps lock thing: I always observe the etiquette but I never attached any significance to the use of all caps. Matters not to me. Maybe Tim was just getting it out of the way before others weighed in more forcefully. It really does irritate some people. |
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MIRONWORKER Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 11 Location : Milwaukee WI Points : 1164 Registration date : 2021-09-25
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:29 am | |
| - 1Wingman1 wrote:
- I probably missed it somewhere but I hope someone said that the GPS leads should not be cut so as to remove the voltage converter that many manufacturers use.
I usually program a destination in my garage at night so I decided to use an unswitched wire on the handlebar. Then I don't drain the bike battery with lights. I can also keep the gps fully charged if I want to unhook it for use in the car. I mounted the gps and started wrapping the wires around the column just below the handlebars and spliced into handlebar power and connected to ground on the handlebar mounting. Cable ties hold the wiring neatly in place without rubbing and everything about the gps turns with the steering and I didn't need to cut any gps power lead. Can easily be removed.
About that caps lock thing: I always observe the etiquette but I never attached any significance to the use of all caps. Matters not to me. Maybe Tim was just getting it out of the way before others weighed in more forcefully. It really does irritate some people. well said,thank you |
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MIRONWORKER Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 11 Location : Milwaukee WI Points : 1164 Registration date : 2021-09-25
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:24 pm | |
| - Cosmic_Jumper wrote:
- MIRONWORKER wrote:
NEED HELP ON THIS GMEDREK@NETZERO.COM Get a 1/4” piggyback wire terminal (AutoZone, Advance Auto, O’Reilly, etc). Attach (crimp / solder) the positive lead (+) from the GPS harness to the piggyback terminal. Mate the piggyback terminal (with the GPS wire) to the Black/Brown (Bl/Bk) wire and terminal of the right side brake light switch. Attach the other (-) GPS wire to an appropriate location on the Silverwing frame.
The GPS will be powered only when the ignition is ON.
on the right brake,2 set of wire, cant tell which is brown,either i hooked it up to wrong one, or the ground to bike not right][/quote] |
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MIRONWORKER Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 11 Location : Milwaukee WI Points : 1164 Registration date : 2021-09-25
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of posts : 4415 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10744 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:16 pm | |
| There are only two wires leading to the right side brake switch. One Yellow/Green (Y/G), one Black/Brown (Bl/Br). Bl/Br should be hot when the ignition is ON.
If you are using the piggyback terminal it should be easy enough to flip flop the connection from one switch terminal to the other. If using the Posi-Tap just move it to the Bl/Br wire.
It might be easier to access those wires if you remove the handlebar shrouding. Then you could also access a frame ground at the handlebar mount bolts.
However, be advised that reattaching that shrouding, while simple enough, can be a PITA get it snapped together so that it doesn’t rattle. If that’s the case think Gaffer Tape. |
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MIRONWORKER Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 11 Location : Milwaukee WI Points : 1164 Registration date : 2021-09-25
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:08 pm | |
| hello,it didnt work for me, dont think i had it grounded to frame correctly,also dont think rear brake light works when squeezed now. ill figure it out |
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MIRONWORKER Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 11 Location : Milwaukee WI Points : 1164 Registration date : 2021-09-25
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:45 am | |
| good morning,think i blew a fuse or burned a bulb if rear brake lights dont work? |
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MIRONWORKER Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 11 Location : Milwaukee WI Points : 1164 Registration date : 2021-09-25
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:54 pm | |
| - Cosmic_Jumper wrote:
- There are only two wires leading to the right side brake switch. One Yellow/Green (Y/G), one Black/Brown (Bl/Br). Bl/Br should be hot when the ignition is ON.
If you are using the piggyback terminal it should be easy enough to flip flop the connection from one switch terminal to the other. If using the Posi-Tap just move it to the Bl/Br wire.
It might be easier to access those wires if you remove the handlebar shrouding. Then you could also access a frame ground at the handlebar mount bolts.
However, be advised that reattaching that shrouding, while simple enough, can be a PITA get it snapped together so that it doesn’t rattle. If that’s the case think Gaffer Tape. MY REAR BRAKE LIGHT DONT COME NOW WHEN BRAKES ARE SQUEEZED,FUSES UNDER SEAT APPEAR TO BE GOOD,ANY SUGESTIONS? |
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zrx212 Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 580 Age : 65 Location : Ocala, FL Points : 2023 Registration date : 2020-12-26
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Fri Nov 05, 2021 8:40 pm | |
| Do you have rear lights and/or horn works when key/switch is on ?? if not, "B" fuse is blown(front fuse box, 2nd from front), restore whatever you did, is either causing a short or drawing to much power for the circuit. |
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MIRONWORKER Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 11 Location : Milwaukee WI Points : 1164 Registration date : 2021-09-25
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:55 pm | |
| it is back to original status,cause it didnt work for me. but no rear brake light,thanks all for the help |
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1Wingman1 Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 126 Age : 82 Location : Jacksonville, Florida Points : 4457 Registration date : 2013-01-19
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:24 am | |
| This thread is an excellent example that demonstrates the lengths that our fellow forum members go to in attempting to help others. Each of us has many talents but I believe that it was Dirty Harry who said that we must know our limitations. Sometimes we just have to bite the bullet and pay a pro. |
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Meldrew Visiting Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 4218 Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK Points : 9445 Registration date : 2010-11-16
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:30 am | |
| Or at least buy your own Factory Service Manual, then you'll have some visual idea of what you're tinkering with. |
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gettyuptogo Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 3 Location : W Ohio Points : 113 Registration date : 2024-08-05
| Subject: Where to get piggyback connector Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:15 pm | |
| - SPCK111 wrote:
- Easiest way to do this is to put a piglet spade connector on the front brake light switch an take the power from there. Done it on all my bikes and keeps the wiring to a minimal. Also powers down with ignition so no flat battery
The 1/4" piggyback connector in the USA is too large for the brake switch. Were can I get the smaller connector?? Thanks |
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MikeO Site Admin
Number of posts : 3837 Age : 75 Location : Seaham, Co Durham, UK Points : 9705 Registration date : 2009-06-29
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:16 am | |
| If you were in the UK I'd say Amazon; it's always my first port of call. |
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JohnyC Site Admin
Number of posts : 379 Age : 71 Location : Bristol, UK Points : 1088 Registration date : 2022-12-23
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:44 pm | |
| Hi gettyuptogo.
Try a net search for 2.8mm spade connectors.
Hope this helps. Be safe, be seen! |
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gettyuptogo Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 3 Location : W Ohio Points : 113 Registration date : 2024-08-05
| Subject: Re: Power to gps handlebar mounted Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:42 pm | |
| - JohnyC wrote:
- Hi gettyuptogo.
Try a net search for 2.8mm spade connectors.
Hope this helps. Be safe, be seen! pi Want to thank everyone who has posted helpful replies to my request. I have not been able to find Andy source for the 2.8mm piggyback connector. The connect to the right lever brake switch. Just wanted to avoid taking off a lot of Tupperware. |
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