Givi AirFlow Adjustable Windshield Review

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Hi,

I was given the opportunity to test the new Givi Adjustable Windshield for a review. They sent this to me on June 30th which was just a day after I spoke with the Givi representative. This will be a shorter review since I only put about 50 miles on it with my initial ride. But I did go on the interstate, state roads, and the city. And I also tested it out in the lowest, middle, and highest postions in all of roads.

Packaging

The windshield was very professionally packaged. There were 2 smaller boxes in 1 larger box and everything was put in where it would be very difficult to damage anything on the shield. And all of the parts needed were in there, although there really isn't much that is needed.

Pictures of Shield







I removed my Givi Windshield that I cut down about 1 1/2". Measuring from the handlebar cover to the top of the Givi screen I cut down was 20 1/2" (measured from the Honda emblem on the handlebar cover). After I installed this Adjustable Givi at the highest position it measured 20 3/4", so it is about 1/4" of taller than the Givi that I took off.

The parts of the shield seem to be very sturdy and easy to use. Here are a couple of close up shots of the fasteners. I'm am calling them fasteners but Givi may refer to them by a different name.







The Ride

I started the ride with the screen in it's highest position which allowed my eyes to be about 1" to 2" above the top of the screen. I started on the city street to ride out to the interstate about 1 1/2 miles. I merged onto the interstate and quickly got up to 65 mph (all speeds will be actual in this review) and I didn't notice any buffeting whatsoever. The top part of this windshield seems a bit narrower than the stock Givi shield but it seems a smoother ride without any turbulence at all. I think the gap between the screens really helps out to eliminate buffeting or back pressure. There was no back pressure that pushes your body or helmet forward at all. The single piece Givi shield that I removed would give a small bit of back pressure that would push your helmet or even your body forward a bit. But there was none of that with the new Givi Adjustable shield.

I rode up and down the highway in about 3 mile sections to try out the different height adjustments. I started out in the highest postion.

INTERSTATE

Highest Position

In the highest position it was a nice quiet ride like the single piece (original) Givi shield. But it seems to be a smoother ride since there is no turbulence at all. I ride with a 1/2 helmet with the fighter pilot visor and when I raised my visor all the way up I didn't feel the need to have to wear glasses at all. Except for safty issues. I don't feel comfortable at all riding without some type of eye protection. But I wanted to test it out to see if glasses are needed. Well, they aren't. I felt a very small amount of wind/breeze but I think it was from some of the wind that came from the side or from around the shield.

I raised my hand up to see where how far the wind was being pushed up and it was at the top of my helmet. It seems that it pushes the air up about 4" over my eyes and gave absolutely no buffeting at all at 65 mph. I also tried to ride close behind semi-trucks and also to the side of them to see if I felt any of the "sailing" effect that I would get with the single piece Givi shield. Sometimes if the wind was right I would feel the wind catch the shield and give some turbulence or that "sailing" effect. Well, as much as I tried I couldn't get that effect with this new adjustable shield.

Middle Position

I then rode with the shield at the middle positon and I did find a bit more wind hitting my eyes but not much more than at the highest position. It was also pushing the wind to just an inch or two below my helmet but there was no buffeting at the middle position either. It seems to push the wind in a very friendly manner. I also didn't get any of the turbulence or buffeting either at the middle postion, even when trying to ride close to semi's.

Lowest Position

The lowest position would give me more wind, of course, but it was still a smooth kind of effect. Even though the lowest position is probably close to the height of the stock Honda screen it didn't seem to produce any buffeting, that would cause my helmet to be pushed around. The stock screen would push my helmet around pretty bad on the interstate but this Givi adjustable screen didn't do that.

As a side note: I'm 6'0" tall and when I sit on my SWing in my normal riding position my eye level is 31" from the seat. I have a longer torso than an average 6 footer so I was concerned that this adjustable shield may not be tall enough.

I have to say that this windshield on the interstate is a very nice shield that produces a nice smooth ride. There is no turbulence or buffeting at all, even when trying to ride as close to semi-trucks as I could to get that effect. I also didn't notice that "sailing" effect that I would get with the stock Givi or the XL Clearview that I had on at one time.

STATE ROAD

Highest Position

The state road that I road on had a speed limit of 45 mph and it was in very good condition with nice curves on it. I started out with the screen at the highest position and it was very smooth. I didn't really keep it at this height for very long at all. It was about 80-85 degrees there so I pulled over to adjust it to the middle position.

Middle Position

I pulled over and adjusted it to the middle position and rode about 5 miles this way and it is a very smooth ride too. Since the speed limit is only 45 mph it is really nice to have the option to adjust the screen. It felt like a very relaxed ride and gave more wind to my body which helped make the ride more enjoyable since I could stay cooler. I then pulled over to adjust it to the lowest position.

Lowest Position

I rode about another 5 miles with the screen in the lowest position and it was also a very nice ride. I think this is the height I will have it at when I ride on these types of roads at these speeds. When I would raise my visor I would feel more wind, of course, in my eyes but it wasn't alot. But it provided a nice breeze to my body and face and it still didn't produce any buffeting to my helmet/head. It was really a very nice ride that kept me cooler.

I also rode one part of my ride on a 5-6 mile stretch where the speed limit was anywhere from 15 mph to 45 mph due to the tight turns. I started the first 2 miles at the middle position and then dropped it down to the lowest position. With this type of ride it was very nice to be able to adjust the shield. Since the speed was slower, and it was hot out, this made the ride much more comfortable.

Adjusting the Screen:

As for adjusting the screen...it is very, very easy and quick. I would adjust it at stop lights or stop signs and it only takes about 5 seconds. It is just that easy. I wouldn't try to adjust this as you ride but I guess it would be possible, but not very safe. You really need to use 2 hands to do it quickly and safely.

Conclusion:

I know I only went on about a 50 mile ride but I have to say I like this new Givi adjustable screen more than the other screens I have had. I don't know if it is the "air-foil" or what, but the ride was very smooth and without any turbulence or buffeting. Even at the lowest heights I still didn't feel turbulence or buffeting. I know that there was more wind at my face at the lowest setting but the wind didn't push my helmet around. It is hard to explain but this shield seems to push the wind up a good amount of distance. When I had my Majesty I put a Laminar Lip on the Givi shield I had and it did help. I think that this shield gives that effect of the Laminar Lip but to a much better extent.

I will give additional updates but if I were in the process of buying an aftermarket screen this is the one that I would choose. I think that if you are a bit over 6' tall it will still do a good job for you. I'm not sure how it would do in the rain so I can't comment on that but it doesn't rain much out here in California.

I can say that when I am in the hills/mountains and on some nice curvy roads I will be keeping it down in the lowest positon, if it is warm out. It is really nice to have these options available to you when riding. The highest position is great on the interstate but I think I will be keeping it in the lowest or middle position in the city or out on my country rides.

Here are some more pictures:




This how the screen fits into the fastener.





This a side view of the screen at the highest level.



This is a picture at the lowest setting. My eyes are probably 5" over the top.



This is the screen at the highest level. My eyes are 1" to maybe 2" over the top.

I would like to thank Givi for giving me this opportunity to review this new shield of theirs. It really is a very nice shield and gives the rider the ability to adjust the screen as needed. If you have any questions please reply to this post and I will keep them in mind for when I give updates. I'm sure i forgot some things so please just respond and I will do my best to get you an answer, if I can. Thanks for reading.

"edited on July 5th"

I'm not sure who all sells these but I have seen them on

www.scootertrap.com and I know Matt is a great guy to deal with.

It's there on the UK Givi site: http://www.givi.co.uk/Screens--spoilers/AIRFLOW/AF214

Jeff i went on a nice long ride yesterday to try out my Airhawk seat pad Did not have to adjust the windshield. It was fine. But nice to know I could if I needed to .So I think it is a keeper for me Tony

Adjustability..........

Ideally, you should be able to see over the shield without straining, yet be able to drop your head to look through the plastic if conditions warrant. You should be able to view the road clearly in your immediate path of travel (approximately two to four seconds or 100 feet ahead).

In the pictures below I have placed yellow caution tape just beyond the front of the house across the driveway at the 100' mark.

In the first picture the Givi is at its lowest setting with yours truly sitting in the proper riding position. In the second the screen is set at the highest. I'm 5'11" with a 30" inseam and the camera is at eye level.

The third is just a shot from the back of the scoot, everybody else shoots the front of the shield

Trouble,

How do you like the screen so far? I really like this and consider it my favorite one so far. For some reason the more I ride my SWing it just seems to ride a bit smoother for some reason. What other screens have you had on your SWing and how do you compare this screen to your others? I'm just curious.

Thanks for the links to this shield guys. I've ordered one from Helmet Head and I can't wait for it to arrive.

Laurie

This is an ingenious design that makes a lot of sense. It has small panels which prevents flexing. It directs the full air blast over and around your head and hand grips but directs a nice unintimidating breeze to those areas. It works well for me (5' 6") at the lowest setting which places the lowest part of the air blast above the very top of my helmet. I am so glad I bought it! It does what a short or tall shield alone cannot do.

Received my Givi Airflow today from Helmet Head for $215.09 including shipping, and it took about 15 minutes to install since I had installed windshields several times before. I took a 30 minute test ride starting at the lowest setting and working my way up about 2 inches at a time to the top setting. I found that the middle setting seemed to work best for me, and allowed me to see over the screen. I'm 5'9". I have had the regular Givi shield, and the Clearview Small, Medium, and Large, trying to find the perfect one. I have been using the Medium lately, but with my full face helmet with the shield down, I was getting a lot of noise. With the Airflow, the noise was significantly reduced, if not eliminated. There was a pretty stiff side wind while I was riding, so I will do another test when it is calmer. My overall opinion is that I think this is going to be my final screen. About the only downside to this screen is when you have it up at the highest setting and looking thru, there is a little distortion.
Thanks Jeff for the excellent review of this product, and this fantastic forum. (So far, I haven't rated being kicked off the "other" site)

thomphoto,

It is quite isn't it? The more I ride with this new screen the more I notice how it is quieter and it also seems to make the SWing a smoother ride. It seems to manage all the air that is hitting this screen in a much nicer manner. It is hard to describe it sometimes but the front end doesn't appear to be effected by the wind as much. It is my favorite screen now too, and for me to change to another screen it would have to be an awfully nice one. Givi really got this screen right in my opinion, and it appears to be a big "winner" for me.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment for the site, but it is the members that make it good not me. But thanks.

I agree, having daily ridden with it for 2 weeks now. It lets a ton of nice breezy but not harsh rough air to hit your head. Just the right amount. A taller screen would allow too little air, and a shorter one, too rough air. This is perfect! I was riding in 90 degree temps the other day and it wasn't bad with the breeze. If I get a chance to encounter a heavy rain storm I'll report on it. In off and on light rain I found I was able to raise and lower the screen with one hand while riding.
Jules

Have any of you guys that have used the new GIVI screen gone straight from the stock screen to the new GIVI, or did you go from an aftermarket screen to the new GIVI?

I find the stock screen with a Laminar Lip to be pretty quiet up to about 75 mph. After that, I get a little whistling noise between the LL and the screen because I have the LL attached so high. When I had the cut-down-two-inches GIVI screen on, it was definitely noisier than the stock w/ LL.

Philip,

I started out, of course, with the stock screen, and then went to the XL Clearview with the vent, and then to the standard Givi screen. The Clearview was good until I hit interstate speeds and then it would flex really bad. There were only a couple of us where that happened but I hear that Clearview did start to "not" sell the XL with a vent now.

This airflow works kind of like a big Laminar Lip. It will push the air up with a lot of force and that air pushes the air that is wanting to come over the screen. I had the Laminar Lip on my Givi when I had my Majesty and it worked good. I just think that this screen seems to be a big quieter than the Givi and I think it is because it manages the air so much better. Maybe others will chime in what have the Airflow and had other screens too. The stock screen drove me nuts and I hated it since it would almost rip my head off when going at interstate speeds.

I tried this style of windshield out on a Honda NT 700. Loved It! Now Givi comes out with one for a Swing. Why do they wait till after I shell out for a regular GIVI? This windshield seems to give the best of both worlds and its stylish to. Maybe one day. I did do one thing to make changing out the windshields quick and painless. I cut the brackets off of the front fairing piece that covers the windshield so that onlythe screws are holding it in. No more fussing with trying to pop it off. I can now change my windshields in 5 minutes. The Givi goes on in the fall and stays on in the spring and the stock shield comes on in late spring and stays on until the fall when it starts cooling off. I guess this is the next best thing to that new adjustable windshield.

JeffR, thanks for the follow up. I had just kind of wondered if the stock shield with LL was as quiet as the new GIVI. Sounds like you feel it is close, but the new GIVI is quieter.

I am doing the same thing as Ron is doing - GIVI in the cool/cold weather and the stocker in the warm weather, both with the LL. I find the LL makes a big difference on both screens. I'll probably continue with this system until one of the screens breaks, only for cost reasons (read: too cheap to pay for another screen).

Hi Bigbird,

Honestly, I've not noticed any kind of buzzing or noise associated with cutting off the tabs. I just got so sick and tired of trying to fuss with getting it off that I simply decided it was time for the tabs to go. The screws do a great job of holding it in place. I think you should be fine if you cut the tabs off. You will be a whole lot happier and less frustrated come time to change the windshields. Even if by chance you do happen to notice any noise or vibration, you could always use something to "dampen" it such as adhesive backed foam or something similar. But I think you'll be fine though as I've never had any noise problems.

I never thought about cutting off the tabs but I can usually get mine off in just a few seconds though. I lost my screws somewhere and only the tabs are holding it in and it doesn't rattle either.

I'm delighted to say that my windshield arrived today from the US - it's taken about 10 days but I've got it at last.

Looking at the instructions (which are barely readable!!), it looks as if I've got to drill some holes before fitting. Did you guys drill anything? I don't remember reading anything about that in the 'pictorial instructions' or your posts.

If that's going to be the case, I may take it to my dealer to get it fitted - I don't trust myself to do it !!

Laurie

Laurie you are right the instructions have a lot to be desired.The reason for drilling the holes is for the 2 mounting brackets A good number of Swing owners do not mount the brackets, So no drilling and it has been fine. Now what I found out from all the good info. here Is that Givi and Honda had a love affair at one time The Swing was made to except a lot of givi after market Acc.So when you mount the brackets with existing bolts There is a place for 2 more bolts on each side If you drill about 3mm deep at these locations just thru the plastic there are 2 capture nuts under the plastic I used a drill bit slightly larger then the bolts that came with your shield. Reason you get confused is the instructions don't tell you why you are drilling and that the nuts are already there. I mounted the 2 brackets I think it makes it a lot stiffer If you are still a little leary about doing it you can take it to a Dealer But they might know less than you Tony

I just mounted it like you would mount a stock shield...didn't drill any holes and it's fine and very stable...less flexing than any shield I've used before.
Jules...Warrenton, VA

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Laurie,

I tried to use the metal strip but just put it aside since I didn't use it on the standard Givi shield either. And like Tony said, the dealers sometimes don't know anymore than the average SWing owner so you may want to try to do this yourself. There is a "Pictorial" that should help you out in the "Pictorial" section. It should only take about 30 mins the first time you do this.

Well, I managed to fit the screen yesterday. It took me about 45 minutes without losing any screws, washers, grommets or breaking any tabs!!

Took it out for a test run and, my goodness, what a difference it's made. It's quieter (I can hear myself think!), not much buffeting at all and even in the slip-stream of trucks and cars it felt much more stable.

What I love about it is that it can be adjusted by millimetres. I was afraid that it only had 3 settings (bottom, middle, top), so I have it set exactly where I want it.

Thanks again for all your tips and help guys. Couldn't have done it without you!!

Laurie

trouble1100 wrote:

For those of you that did not drill the plastic I'm here to tell you it's not a big deal.

I second that.

Also, it's not necessary, but if you want to have a better view, I seem to remember that that black plastic piece (the one that sort of forms the dash/top of inst. cluster) comes out with just a couple screws and clips, and then you can see the nut and exactly what you're drilling into.

Where is a good place to buy this windshield? thanks billc. and what is a good price?

Twisted Throttle has them - it seems the standard price is $215 and change.

I bought mine at Helmet Head for $215.09 free shipping, arrived quickly.
See http://tinyurl.com/2aflmtf
Best,
Jules

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Bigbird, how obvious is it where to drill the two holes?

Ta muchly!

On mine, I think I also remember some sort of circular markings in the tupperware which seemed to indicate where the holes need to be drilled. I don't know if that's why they were there or if it's something else from the manufacturing process. Has anyone else noticed this?

To respond to Bigbird about being in a hurry.And also DO NOT PUT ANY IN YOUR MOUTH unless it is small enough to pass or you have extras. Don't even ask. Tony

The National Enquirer said inquiring minds want to know. They would like a full write up plus pictures, said it should make the front page next to Elvis sighting in Afghanistan.

Craig

Well lets just say I am glad I had a spare Tony

billc. wrote:

Where is a good place to buy this windshield? thanks billc. and what is a good price?

$215.09 with free shipping http://www.helmetheadcycle.com/product/12546/givi-af214-honda-silver-wing-400-600-2801-0929-airflow-windshield

Hi All,
I just returned from a 1200 mile ride, including Deal's Gap, and the Tail of the Dragon, with 4 Harleys, 1 Goldwing, 1 Reflex, and my Silverwing. This was the first long trip with my new Givi Air Flo windshield. I'm glad to report that this windshield is the best one that I have had, and that includes the regular Givi, and 3 sizes of Clearview. On the interstate, I kept it at about the halfway mark which allowed me to just see over it. There was no buffeting, but it let a nice breeze come around, just enough to be comfortable in the 90+ temps. In the twisties I put it at the lowest setting which allowed a really good view of the road ahead. I tried the lowest setting on the interstate, and I did get some buffeting on my helmet, but you would expect that. I was able to adjust it up or down with 1 hand while riding (slowly). The only issues I had was a lot of flutter at high speeds, but that was not a problem since I was looking over it, and there is some distortion if you try to look thru it. Overall, I highly recommend it.

Wendell

thomphoto wrote:

The only issues I had was a lot of flutter at high speeds, but that was not a problem since I was looking over it

Was the fluttering front-back movement at the top of the windshield??

Do you have the optional bracket installed ... I wonder if that was intended for high speed movement.

Yes, the flutter was front back movement on the lower section. And I did not install the brackets, but I will be doing that soon to see if that makes a difference. By the way, my gas mileage for the 1200 miles was 54 MPG and that included about 300 miles of interstate at 70 indicated.

thomphoto wrote:

Yes, the flutter was front back movement on the lower section. And I did not install the brackets, but I will be doing that soon to see if that makes a difference.

Let us know.

thomphoto wrote:

By the way, my gas mileage for the 1200 miles was 54 MPG and that included about 300 miles of interstate at 70 indicated.

Would that be lower, normal or higher from prior MPG comparisons??

Actually, this was the first time I ever checked it.

Hey All,

I am curious if you saw an increase or decrease in gas mileage with the Givi AF214.

I must be a real dumb ass. This morning I removed my new Air Flo windshield thinking I would install the little brackets to see if that helped with the fluttering at higher speeds. After 2 hrs, I gave up on it. For the life of me I can't figure out how these little bastards are supposed to go on, and how they would accomplish anything if they were on. The pictures that Givi supplies are so crappy I can't make out anything. I can usually figure things like this out, but these have me completely baffeled. Doe's anyone have clear photos of these things installed?
Thanks,
Wendell

Thanks bigbird, that's beginning to make sense. I couldn't see how the bolt would work by just drilling a hole, and the instructions say you drill 2 holes. Also, does' the bracket go on first under the windshield, or on top of it?

Wendell

ehaughn wrote:

Hey All,

I am curious if you saw an increase or decrease in gas mileage with the Givi AF214.

ehaughn,

I have noticed that if I do the speed limits that i'm getting about 2-3 mpg better. If I decide to ride it a more aggressive the SWing just drinks gas, so I don't think it does any better than the stock. But it does feel that you don't feel the wind hitting the shield but it being deflected in a much smoother manner so maybe that is one reason. I also lower the shield too when riding on the 45 mph roads that I ride on too, so that could be a reason.

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Thanks Terry, I think I've got it now. Will give it another shot in the morning.

BigBird is right Drill 1 hole each side i took off the tupperware and took some pictures I do not know how to post them I emailed them to DennisB He posted pictures for me in my past life Tony

Thanks Dennis

Fantastic, thanks Dennis and Tony. I knew someone on this forum would show me how to do this. I'll get the job done in the morning and report if it makes any difference in the fluttering.

Wendell

Has anybody actually went out and did some real miles under varied conditions to see how shield really performs would like know before I spend-----real miles to me are-----like trip I just got back from, Fri to Thurs 2400 miles, temps 60 to 100 plus, TN to UP Mich and back. Need to know about fog/rain/shaking of shield/Night---in other words does it really work. Need for earplugs? Several days of 400-500 miles under bad conditions can tell a lot about an accessory and whether it makes you feel good or bad-------My Clearview/vented with Laminar Lip was miserable---I took lip off about midway---I think it added to buffeting

John Grinsel Bugs,too.