maintenance

hi all my name is Allen from N Ireland
bought my scooter 3 years ago i have now 14000 miles on the clock
the last few times i have had it out i felt it shuddering a bit when i am taking off
and when i stop i can smell rubber
are these the tell tale signs i need a belt change
the guy i bought it from told me the belt would need changing at 16000
i think Honda suggest around 12000
is changing the belt a big job
and is there anything else i should be doing when i am in there
i have been riding a bike for years but have only been using a computer 3 weeks
please excuse any mistakes i have typed this with one finger

hi allen i dont know what mileage you do but on mine a get a slight juddering or hesitation from standing start just of throttle and running slightly rough a low rpm.ive read on this site to hold the front brake on hard and rev to 4000 this deglazes the clutch.it smoothed my bike out .as for the belt change dead easy but you will need the holding tool for the variator .to be honest the shop will only charge you around a hours labour to do the job .and a belt is around £90 so not to bad .i personally would renew it for peace of mind.welcome to the site by the way, i get a lot of good information from here.all the best

hi iesley
cheers for reply i will defiantly try front brake tip
my local dealer closed down recently
so i am going to have a go myself at the belt

Welcome Lesley.... here is a pictorial to show you the steps for replacing the belt... https://www.silverwing600.com/t23-variator-and-belt-pictorial?highlight=drive+belt

You will have a light come on at exactly 16k miles (US miles) not sure if Ireland uses miles or Km. You may have different interval is metric.

You are doing pretty good for a one finger typist. I can barely tell without listening real close.

Welcome again.

I have put 22,000 on my S/W and my light has not come on.Any idea why it would not?

Welcome Allen.

Not having done the job, belt change, but I have had a dry run so to speak. For me the worst part would be the procurement or manufacture of the variator tool. I now have the bits, A suitable length of metal to manufacture the part. I still have several miles, (5k) to go so time is on my side.

A good selection of sockets are essential, I did but one specifically to remove the cover, a 8mm long reach for on particular bolt. Other than that the job looks to be a cinch. There is an excellent tutorial on here that will take you through the stages needed.

Again welcome to all thing 'Wing'.

hi thanks to everyone for feed back
i had what you might call a dry run today stripped every thing off to have a good look at the belt surprised to see it looks in really in good condition had expected to find something shredded and well worn after the good look and reading through all the comments i think this is a job i can do
i changed the oil in the final drive when i had all the parts off
i also tried the tip holding on the front brake and bringing her up to
4000 rpm for 5/10 seconds to deglaze the clutch
we are having a lot of snow and sleet over here so did not get a chance to do the test run
if this stops the shuddering i might leave the belt change to mid summer
i contacted the Honda supplier and he quoted me 180 pounds
for belt and rollers would that sound about right or can anyone tell me where i might get them cheaper

The best I can find so far is:

http://www.hondascooterspares.co.uk/spares/partimage.asp?gpn=23100mct003

CMS NL may have some, but the postage is terrible!

hi skippy

thanks for the contact i rang them up got a quote of around 200 pounds
so at least that keeps my local guy honest


be careful out there
Allen

Allen,

Where do you get a figure of £200 from?? The webpage say £133.+pence!

PLease don't tell me its postage.

There was a UK site I visited yesterday quoting £183 for the item so £200 is up there. I would search wider afield Allen to drop that down, as I suspect it is a tad pricey.

hi
sorry forgot yo mention the 200 is for belt and rollers

Allen

Hi guys sorry i haven't been on for a while
been a bit on the busy side
i hadn't tried the scooter since the deglazing clutch tip
had her out today done quite a good few stops and starts
definitely a big change she is a lot smother
thanks for the advice
Allen

Hi,

I don't use a variator tool at all. I have an electric impact wrench that tightens to 90 ft/lbs of torque and I just use that. I remove the variator nut and then I replace the belt and use the impact wrench to just tighten it as tight as it goes. I believe it needs to be torqued to 78 ft/lbs so I just figure that if it gets to 90 that isn't too much over. I have done this at least 8-10 times, replacing the belt or changing out the variator/rollers/sliders. Just a thought.

Changed my drive belt today the same way as you Jeff,only with air impact.I guess it wasn't exactly the same. Easy as heck with impact. Could be done on the road if you had a 12 V. impact.My old belt had 22,000mi.on it and it was only .030" narrower than the new one,with no sine of cracking but good to know it's new now.Also put in new set of plugs,old ones were burning clean,looked good and replaced air filter with a K&N filter.Now I'm ready to go to Orlando in the morning to take part in an annual ride to support the fight against breast cancer called Scooters For Hooters

Roger,

The air guns make it so quick and easy to change the variator doesn't it? Have fun on your trip and hope you raise alot of money for the cause.

model28a wrote:

Now I'm ready to go to Orlando in the morning to take part in an annual ride to support the fight against breast cancer called Scooters For Hooters

I know the firemen walk around with boots for their "Fill the Boot" campaign, but what do you use. Not that I've ever stuffed a dollar in a ladies' lingerie