Newbie from Scotland

Hi folks - currently on a honda Sh300i however I enjoy reading about other larger displacement scooters - including the Swing

corduraman wrote:

Hi folks - currently on a honda Sh300i however I enjoy reading about other larger displacement scooters - including the Swing

Careful, S'Wing fever is contagious.

Welcome Corduraman, My Silverwing came from north of the border and was well looked after, Hope you get a S/W soon. Take care

Welcome from the Land of Lincoln...Illinois, USA. Look forward to seeing more of your posts and any photos of Scotland from your scooter would be well received!

Kenjj50 wrote:

Look forward to seeing more of your posts and any photos of Scotland from your scooter would be well received!

Well since you asked

Hi, and welcome.

Great pictures!

Where in Scotland are you? I'm in Musselburgh and wondering if there are any more local members here.

Welcome from o-HI-o, nice bike nice pics.

mcneill wrote:

Where in Scotland are you? I'm in Musselburgh and wondering if there are any more local members here.

Mill of Haldane near Balloch loch lomond

Hi there corduraman ... and welcome from New Scotland!
Great bunch of people here with vast amounts of knowledge, which, they don't mind sharing at all.
The 300i looks great!
Mike

Mike from NS wrote:

Hi there corduraman ... and welcome from New Scotland!
Great bunch of people here with vast amounts of knowledge, which, they don't mind sharing at all.
The 300i looks great!
Mike

You do realise on another forum and under another forum name, corduraman has been slagging off the Silver Wing as being overweight and thirsty, and their owners as slow riding elderly pensioners. I'd say he's now realised the error of his ways.

'Slow riding pensioners'? Well I hardly think that we'd fall into the crotch-rocketeer demographic.

Cosmic_Jumper wrote:

'Slow riding pensioners'? Well I hardly think that we'd fall into the crotch-rocketeer demographic.

What about these tales of "blasting through the twisties" that occasionally surface on here.

I do hope this post is in the "other bikes" section. I come on this website Silver wing 600 because I own and ride a Silverwing600. I also own and ride a Burgman 400 but, this is not the place to show pictures or debate about my Burgman, they have their own site.

Just to set the record straight - I am also a contributor to maxi-muppets / maxi-scoots / advrider / bcf all of whom accept comment negative or positive on any motorcycle or scooter - my observations on the Swing being a tad heavy both in weight and fuel consumption was gleaned from internet reviews of this scooter by reliable sources - hardly slagging the Swing off as suggested by Meldrew - and if Old Limey cares to actually read my introduction he will note that I clearly state that I am not an Swing owner and that I uploaded a few images from beautiful Scotland at the request of Kenjj50

Great pictures! I was in Scotland a couple of years ago. I didn't have my SWing, but thought at the time it would be a beautiful country to ride. Thanks for the pictures. Don't get too concerned about gripes and whines. It happens occasionally regardless of the topic! I just wish more riders would post photos of their trips. They're nice to see.

Ahh, Scotland. Thanx for the pix. I love riding up there.

corduraman wrote:

Just to set the record straight - I am also a contributor to maxi-muppets / maxi-scoots / advrider / bcf all of whom accept comment negative or positive on any motorcycle or scooter - my observations on the Swing being a tad heavy both in weight and fuel consumption was gleaned from internet reviews of this scooter by reliable sources - hardly slagging the Swing off as suggested by Meldrew - and if Old Limey cares to actually read my introduction he will note that I clearly state that I am not an Swing owner and that I uploaded a few images from beautiful Scotland at the request of Kenjj50

Let's see now, your observations were as a forum jockey with no experience of the Silver Wing at all. For a start you quoted something written by a British bike journo about his experiences riding a very early Silver Wing criticising it's poor fuel consumption.  

You were obviously unaware that article was published way back in June 2001. Anyone interested in and riding maxi scooters back then like myself knew that was a minus for this big new Honda right from the launch. Similar articles were also published in magazines like Twist & Go at the time.

In fact the thirsty reputation that early model Silver Wings gained in the press put me off buying one for years, so I went through a Burgman phase Now after six years owning a Silver Wing I've no interest in Burgmans at all.

Despite the fact that fuel efficiency between early model Silver Wings and the later O2 sensor fitted models has been done to death on maxi forum topics, you had no idea of that important difference too. Yet you rather sarcastically disputed the mpg I quoted from the occasional fuel figures I've logged in notebooks, knowing absolutely nothing about the ’08 onwards Silver Wing’s improved fuel efficiency.

Then there's the Silver Wing's weight, it's 247kg and has a twin cylinder engine, so wouldn't expect it to weigh more than the single cylinder step thru scooters you're used too.

I don't find the weight a problem, even loaded up for solo or rider and passenger touring, and I'm a pensioner. What I do know after two years ownership of the 30kg heavier 650 Burgman, that first 50 miles ride home from the dealers on the lighter Silver Wing was a relevation. The Burgman was also physically harder to move around at home especially with a cold engine.

Another small thing, this pensioner hasn't put his Honda away until next April like you have because we've had the odd bit of early morning winter frost.

So maybe when you've run out of Bonnie Scotland photos to post with your step thru, I'll give you my next set of mpg figures to rubbish, I don't think I've noted any down since I fitted Iridium plugs a while ago.  

Fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, fight!

Oops sorry

JB

Meldrew,
I swapped my used 2002 Swing for a 2013 because I wanted the O2 sensor and ABS. I have not seen any improvement in MPG (us gallon). I am still getting around 50MPG as I did with my 2002. Is there a service procedure for the sensor?  I have not found a procedure.

US gallon is less than Imperial gallon, so your figures are about the same as other Silver wing riders in US. Sensor has no service as far as I know.

Easyrider wrote:

Meldrew,
I swapped my used 2002 Swing for a 2013 because I wanted the O2 sensor and ABS. I have not seen any improvement in MPG (us gallon). I am still getting around 50MPG as I did with my 2002. Is there a service procedure for the sensor?  I have not found a procedure.

As you pay peanuts for your fuel in the US compared to what we have to for ours in the UK, I really don't see a problem. Plus your 50mpg in US gallons is 60 mpg in our UK gallons, and my 70mpg would be 58mpg to you.

How much is fuel in the UK now?

Meldrew wrote:

Easyrider wrote:

Meldrew,
I swapped my used 2002 Swing for a 2013 because I wanted the O2 sensor and ABS. I have not seen any improvement in MPG (us gallon). I am still getting around 50MPG as I did with my 2002. Is there a service procedure for the sensor?  I have not found a procedure.

As you pay peanuts for your fuel in the US compared to what we have to for ours in the UK, I really don't see a problem. Plus your 50mpg in US gallons is 60 mpg in our UK gallons, and my 70mpg would be 58mpg to you.

Meldrew,
Yea I know the difference. What I am trying to say is that the O2 did not improve my mileage as I had hoped regardless the cost per gallon, US or UK. I seem to remember DennisB did something to service his sensor to fix a problem he had. It had something to do with the oil he used.

BTW - Is Dennis OK? Hope that he is recovering well. Have not seen him posting lately.

Reg. Unleaded at the Supermarkets ASDA and Morrison's currently 1.09 pounds per litre . Main Road petrol stations anything up to 1.18pounds per litre.

Yes Old Limey - and if you purchase forty pounds worth of groceries you get a litre for 99.9 pence

That is about $1.86 cnd.
It cost $1.03 / liter in Canada. (varies abit from place to place.) If I cross the border into the US it is about 20 cents less per liter. All in Canadian money. So the US is less than half the UK price.