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Garfeild Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 8 Location : Kent England Points : 1699 Registration date : 2020-04-02
| Subject: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:04 am | |
| I recently fitted a new drive belt to my 2002 bike, I didn’t realise it had a direction of rotation on it (I didn’t notice anything at the time, and it’s only while watching someone else’s video, that the direction of rotation was mentioned) I’ve only done about 30 miles or so on the new belt, over the bank holiday I’m going to get the covers back off and have a look, now, the question is, if I have fitted it the wrong way round, is it better to leave it that way, or would refitting it the correct way, cause more damage as now the stress is going in the opposite direction? TIA |
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of posts : 4415 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10739 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:21 am | |
| ~30 miles? Not too late to make the correction. IMO |
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Dale N. Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1999 Age : 78 Location : Princeton, MN Points : 6069 Registration date : 2014-02-13
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:28 am | |
| I also don't think 30 miles was enough to damage it. |
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Loosemarbles Site Admin
Number of posts : 1606 Age : 63 Location : South East England Points : 4750 Registration date : 2016-10-01
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:10 am | |
| I agree. 30 miles shouldn't have done any harm. Put it back on the right way round, it'll be fine. |
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Garfeild Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 8 Location : Kent England Points : 1699 Registration date : 2020-04-02
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:16 am | |
| Well I got in from work early today so decided to whip the covers off and have a look, there was a 50/50 chance I got it right and of course, it was on the wrong way round once I found the markings, so now it’s rectified and all should be well Thanks all
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sonuvabug Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 930 Location : Mid-Western Ontario Canada Points : 6190 Registration date : 2010-09-15
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:30 pm | |
| So ... I wonder if this is a new way to double the life out of a belt. Simply rotate the direction of it when it's at the end of it's life cycle ... just like rotating the tires on your car. |
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john grinsel Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 3313 Age : 85 Points : 9459 Registration date : 2009-08-18
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:41 pm | |
| I don't think reversing travel of belt will increase miles----they do wear out internally in addition to wearing narrow-----I change at makers recommended intervals with OEM belts.....and in now 30 years and over 400,000 miles, with rubber band drive scooters only broke/ate up one belt underway. I hate walking! Will stick with the way I am doing it! On 11th new rubber band drive scooter. |
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exavid Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2658 Age : 81 Location : Medford, Oregon Points : 8392 Registration date : 2009-07-17
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:04 pm | |
| Reversing belts in general isn't a good idea. The fibers in the cloth and the rubber tend to become aligned with the power flow. Reversing the belt direction causes that to reverse the wear on an already broken in belt. It will shorten the belt life overall. I don't know for sure but the fiber reinforcements could be designed to take the load in a specific direction. Motorcycle tires also specify a specific direction of rotation. Seems to me best to take the manufacturer's recommendations since they want the best performance for their products. Not good to be known for short lived tires and belts.
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Terry Smith Silver Wing Rider
Number of posts : 403 Age : 60 Location : Auckland, New Zealand Points : 2138 Registration date : 2020-03-11
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:58 pm | |
| I would have thought it would be obvious that the belt was in backwards when you found you had one forward gear and five in reverse... |
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Dale N. Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1999 Age : 78 Location : Princeton, MN Points : 6069 Registration date : 2014-02-13
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:45 am | |
| I just thought of something using Polish Logic. If you wait until the belt is almost worn out and then put it on backwards won't that bring it back to new in 10 or 15 thousand miles? |
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Loosemarbles Site Admin
Number of posts : 1606 Age : 63 Location : South East England Points : 4750 Registration date : 2016-10-01
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:22 am | |
| I bet Honda weren't thinking along the lines of 32000 mile belt when they designed the SW. Looks like you've outwitted them Dale |
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exavid Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2658 Age : 81 Location : Medford, Oregon Points : 8392 Registration date : 2009-07-17
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:33 pm | |
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steve_h80 Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1036 Location : Teesdale, UK Points : 4224 Registration date : 2016-05-15
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:36 pm | |
| Quote "So ... I wonder if this is a new way to double the life out of a belt. Simply rotate the direction of it when it's at the end of it's life cycle ... just like rotating the tires on your car. Wink" Oh stop it - someone out there is gonna believe you |
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Easyrider Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1013 Age : 74 Location : HI Points : 4345 Registration date : 2015-12-18
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:58 pm | |
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sonuvabug Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 930 Location : Mid-Western Ontario Canada Points : 6190 Registration date : 2010-09-15
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:03 pm | |
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oldwingguy Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1935 Location : Hocking Hills U.S.A. Points : 5353 Registration date : 2016-01-29
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:49 pm | |
| I must introduce you fellows to the carburetor gnomes |
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Hiyo Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 94 Location : East Central Illinois Points : 1947 Registration date : 2019-10-22
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 2:05 pm | |
| I could get twice the use out of my underwear by turning them inside out. You have to shake the crust out of them first though. |
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Meldrew Visiting Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 4217 Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK Points : 9439 Registration date : 2010-11-16
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 3:03 pm | |
| That's just needless extravagance, what about the bonus days of back to front, then inside out back to front. As UK supermarket chain Tesco likes to say “Every little helps”. |
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sonuvabug Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 930 Location : Mid-Western Ontario Canada Points : 6190 Registration date : 2010-09-15
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 3:19 pm | |
| - Meldrew wrote:
- That's just needless extravagance, what about the bonus days of back to front, then inside out back to front.
Totally agree with Meldrew. That's four completely clean panels heading forward. There's always the possibility of a bonus panel or two if you were extra tight one or more of those days. And let us not forget the odd "commando" day thrown in here and there. |
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Hiyo Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 94 Location : East Central Illinois Points : 1947 Registration date : 2019-10-22
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 3:33 pm | |
| Ah but if you really crap them up you can only use them twice. Meldrew, I am retired so I consider the twice used shorts a luxury. |
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Easyrider Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1013 Age : 74 Location : HI Points : 4345 Registration date : 2015-12-18
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 4:04 pm | |
| Just line it with a paper towel then you would never need to wash your underwear ever. You maybe able to fold the towel to a cleaner sopt. |
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Mech 1 twa Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1384 Location : Allentown PA. Points : 4723 Registration date : 2016-01-02
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 4:53 pm | |
| DEPENDS on how crappy it got. |
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Hiyo Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 94 Location : East Central Illinois Points : 1947 Registration date : 2019-10-22
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 4:58 pm | |
| Depends are for Iron Butt ralliers. |
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Meldrew Visiting Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 4217 Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK Points : 9439 Registration date : 2010-11-16
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 5:17 pm | |
| I've found a small nutmeg grater takes up very little space in your kit and a few minutes light grating removes the dried top layer of crud easily, then you're good for at least for another week.
A quick wipe round with one of those freebie lemon scented hand wipes neutralises odours too.
The crusty connoisseur always keep a large paper clip threaded through their riding jacket or favourite fleece zipper.
Apart from acting as a very good zip puller, you'll always have it handy for that emergency pleat when your aged underpants elastic finally gives, you don't want to to be showing off your butt crack like a teenager do you.
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Mech 1 twa Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1384 Location : Allentown PA. Points : 4723 Registration date : 2016-01-02
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 5:31 pm | |
| OH Boy. The avalanche is picking up speed. My arse is burning . |
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Meldrew Visiting Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 4217 Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK Points : 9439 Registration date : 2010-11-16
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 5:36 pm | |
| I believe that country classic 'Ring of Fire' by country legend Johnny Cash was written about a similar problem. |
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Mech 1 twa Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1384 Location : Allentown PA. Points : 4723 Registration date : 2016-01-02
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 5:40 pm | |
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Hiyo Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 94 Location : East Central Illinois Points : 1947 Registration date : 2019-10-22
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 5:47 pm | |
| You know if you overload, wearing rainpants work great.The excess just loads up in the boots and gets you a few more miles and who knows you might get to run over an old flattened squirrel for having driven the extra miles! |
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GoonerKev Silver Wing Rider
Number of posts : 409 Age : 70 Location : Reigate, Surrey, UK Points : 2509 Registration date : 2019-04-09
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Tue May 19, 2020 7:08 pm | |
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sonuvabug Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 930 Location : Mid-Western Ontario Canada Points : 6190 Registration date : 2010-09-15
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed May 20, 2020 8:28 am | |
| - Meldrew wrote:
- I believe that country classic 'Ring of Fire' by country legend Johnny Cash was written about a similar problem.
And for some reason I always thought the Red Hot Chili Peppers wrote that tune. This site is an incredible fountain of knowledge. |
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Hiyo Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 94 Location : East Central Illinois Points : 1947 Registration date : 2019-10-22
| Subject: Re: Drive belt wrong way round, problem? Wed May 20, 2020 8:32 am | |
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