So I was looking at my AK-47 tonight on the.....

So I was looking at my Romianian AK-47 Underfolder tonight sitting on a guitar stand (where I keep it) wondering if.....

If that SOB would fit under the seat of my Honda Silver Wing and what do you know?

IT DOES!!!! Even with the magazine in.

Hahahahahaa!!!

I have a photo just don't know if it will come out. Lets see.... I keep reducing but still says too big a file.

Mike

Well, that's one solution to traffic jams.

Take the mag out and it would be a legal transport since the seat locks.

SilverwingInIdaho wrote:

Take the mag out and it would be a legal transport since the seat locks.

And the clip empty. Don't forget that.

MaxB

Remember......We who ride S/Ws are your friends

Shucks, I can't get my SAM to fit!

You can always drill out the sidelights (Upper left/right side of the headlight).
There is enough room to mount 2 baby glocks (26 or 27) behind them.
You'd just need to remote actuate the triggers.
They carry 9 rounds each.


Of course if you are in a roadrage mood, installing a small box of tire spikes
on your rear fender with a remote release is a lot less conspicuous...

What does it say about me that I've actually thought about these things....

You Americans are insane over your right to bear arms and procure just about any weapon available.

The world would be a much better place without the presence of weapons in the public's possession, especially sidearms.

Good to know my Yugo underfolder will fit under there. :-)

Thats awesome. I have my conceal and carry here in Mo. but i dont think it would be very comfortable to hook up an AK under my jacket!

Are there state rules for open carry? Or is that federal? I rarely see anyone open carry on there hip, but ive never looked into it however.

dspevack wrote:

You can always drill out the sidelights (Upper left/right side of the headlight).
There is enough room to mount 2 baby glocks (26 or 27) behind them.
You'd just need to remote actuate the triggers.
They carry 9 rounds each.


Of course if you are in a roadrage mood, installing a small box of tire spikes
on your rear fender with a remote release is a lot less conspicuous...

What does it say about me that I've actually thought about these things....

There was a commotion sometime back about a guy who got arrested for building a flamethrower on the tail of his bike? Anyone remember that? And yea, i think of these things as well!

bigbird wrote:

You Americans are insane over your right to bear arms and procure just about any weapon available.

The world would be a much better place without the presence of weapons in the public's possession, especially sidearms.

Not being able to defend yourself against an armed ruling class is one of the reasons we left merry old england!

MaxB wrote:

SilverwingInIdaho wrote:

Take the mag out and it would be a legal transport since the seat locks.

And the clip empty. Don't forget that.

MaxB

Ya if I ever transport it I will call the local police and get the skinny on the exact requirments that's for sure. But think about it, I bet no one would ever suspect a guy on any bike might have that kinda fire power under their seat. I would have never thought it possible.

Tagg wrote:

dspevack wrote:

You can always drill out the sidelights (Upper left/right side of the headlight).
There is enough room to mount 2 baby glocks (26 or 27) behind them.
You'd just need to remote actuate the triggers.
They carry 9 rounds each.


Of course if you are in a roadrage mood, installing a small box of tire spikes
on your rear fender with a remote release is a lot less conspicuous...

What does it say about me that I've actually thought about these things....

There was a commotion sometime back about a guy who got arrested for building a flamethrower on the tail of his bike? Anyone remember that? And yea, i think of these things as well!

Must have been a real anti weapon state. Most places you'd be legal to own a working flame thrower or build one.
If your making one on a bike for exibition stunt use I see no reason it would be cross with the law. The Guy must have been into other things or shot his mouth off with threats about how he was gonna use it?

Mike

bigbird wrote:

You Americans are insane over your right to bear arms and procure just about any weapon available.

The world would be a much better place without the presence of weapons in the public's possession, especially sidearms.

Oh come on now, you Canadians used to be able to own your FN FAL's and the sun still rose every day like it always did.

The AK-47 most own here are only semi automatics not machine guns. So in funtion it's no different then any other rifle say a Mini 14 ranch rifle.

I've done WW1 (the great war) German re enacting and I've fired real belt fed machine guns and a Bergman Mp 18. The Bergman was fun, the big belt fed MG1908 rattled my brain and it was not enjoyable at all. But the guys who own them are checked out and have to have a Federal Firearms Class III License to own em. I was told at the event last time most of the Machine Gun owners were B.A.T.F. agents.

You want safty I'd suggest disarming National Governments. Only local police should be armed. Nothing more dangerous then a Federal Agent with a gun in my mind. Just sayin.

If I lived near the boarder I'd have several guns loaded at all times. Lucky for me I live in a very safe crime free area.

Mike

SilverwingInIdaho wrote:

If I lived near the boarder I'd have several guns loaded at all times. Lucky for me I live in a very safe crime free area.
Mike

Once you pull that trigger, you can never take it back.
If you need to protect yourself with a handgun in your society, I'd say find another society to live in.
No handguns allowed in Europe, Canada, Australia....
Isn't that most of the free world?

Except, or course, the good old US of A, where you still think you live in the stagecoach and wild west era and need to arm yourselves.

I'm not crazy, I'll cop to being well informed. The more informed I am the more scary things look.

Mike

Tagg wrote:

There was a commotion sometime back about a guy who got arrested for building a flamethrower on the tail of his bike? Anyone remember that?

In the video below Jay Leno recounts the story of a guy who pulls his car up too close behind him in traffic and gets his bumper melted by Jay's jet bike.

Y2K Jet bike

To those putting down the USA for allowing weapons, I remind you...
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
I will gladly give up my gun when police protection is sufficient to protect me.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

The factors that UK and Canadian critics of US gun laws always seem to forget are that the entire UK is about the size of New York State and has only the ocean for a border - much easier to monitor and control the amount of guns in its territory thus they can actually keep most criminals from having guns. Canada, on the other hand, has a population less than 1/3 of 1% of the US which alone makes it easier to monitor and maintain. It, of course only borders the US. Try having Mexico for a border and THEN tell us how you'd feel about not being able to arm yourself. I live just across from Juarez which is rated as the murder capital of the world. El Paso is rated as the most dangerous border town in the US. Thank God I live on an Army post where there's a gate and REALLY big guns.

The government in the UK only controlled and then confiscated the legally held hand guns, all the illegal/criminally held ones are still out there !!!

Somerled wrote:

Canada, on the other hand, has a population less than 1/3 of 1% of the US which alone makes it easier to monitor and maintain.

Not sure where you got those incorrect population figures from.
The US population is currently 312.1 million.
Canada's current population is 34.6 million, which is 11% of the US population.

As a country, we are more civilized, better educated, and have nowhere near your embedded intolerances and fears.

bigbird wrote:

Not sure where you got those incorrect population figures from.
The US population is currently 312.1 million.
Canada's current population is 34.6 million, which is 11% of the US population.

As a country, we are more civilized, better educated, and have nowhere near your embedded intolerances and fears.

Sorry, that's what I get for making a calculation after I've been up more than 26 hours pulling staff duty.

You are correct about the percentage. Still, it's a very small percentage and hardly what I would call a mandate. As for your other assertions they are of course merely opinion and not facts. I think it best not to be insulting. I have many Canadian friends having grown up mere miles from the border in Vermont. I do not feel it necessary to try to prove a point with rancor. I made my point clear enough, and miscalculation on the afore mentioned percentage or not, it still stands.

If only I had had a gun for protection when I was attacked IN MY OWN HOME years ago, there would be one less rapist out there somewhere ... now, they'll take my guns out of my cold dead hands ....

Somerled wrote:

As for your other assertions they are of course merely opinion and not facts.

That's all they are. They're not even worth the paper they're printed on.

PS: Never, and I mean NEVER, try to enter Canada with any undisclosed sidearms, even if they are legal, licensed, and whatever else you have to do to own them in the US. You will be asked at the border if you have any firearms. If you say "no" and try to smuggle them in, they will be confiscated at the border, you will be put on an undesirable alien list, and never be allowed to enter Canada again.

It happens at our borders every day.

I've only found Canada friendly and would not bring in a gun ... ... but if someone tries to enter my home surrepticiously at 2 am again ... well, I don't think he'd be in any condition to leave under his own power if I had my way ...

Don't worry about U.S. Citizens smuggling guns into Canada, worry about the U.S. Government doing it. Just ask Mexico.

bigbird wrote:

Somerled wrote:

Canada, on the other hand, has a population less than 1/3 of 1% of the US which alone makes it easier to monitor and maintain.

Not sure where you got those incorrect population figures from.
The US population is currently 312.1 million.
Canada's current population is 34.6 million, which is 11% of the US population.

As a country, we are more civilized, better educated, and have nowhere near your embedded intolerances and fears.

I am not sure this is accurate, but I find many of your post to be very offensive. The arrogance, abrasiveness and general "cockingness" is very offensive . Especially from a "guru".
Our founding fathers in the USA decided that we needed the right to bear arms as civilians. We broke away from England to have that right. So, please don't belittle us because of a founding believe. I have traveled in Canada, Europe and Japan, and have found laws and culture that I have not always agreed with, I have not criticized them.
It sounds like (in many of your post, as with this one) you are trying to pick a fight. I hope I can stay above that. I have been taught through all of my martial arts training to do so, but I was also taught to defend my family, myself and my honor.

Heiwa,
Bob

No need for fighting in this thread. Let me apologise for posting this thread. I have not taken much of a look around yet and did not even realize that there is an International asspect to the membership here.

I thought the forum was based in the USA but I see top admin is in England. This type of thread won't do well when ever there is a mix of Euro and American members. I just did not know the make up.

bob wells wrote:

I am not sure this is accurate, but I find many of your post to be very offensive. The arrogance, abrasiveness and general "cockingness" is very offensive .

What posts do you find offensive?
Those relating to this ridiculous topic, or others?
Can you be more specific. PM me and I'll go from there.

This BS all started when the OP half jokingly suggested he carry an automatic weapon on his Swing for protection. I find THAT very offensive. I was brought up under a very different constitution than you. I was taught NOT to fight and kill.

I'm done with this topic. Stupid me for getting sucked into this whirlpool of ridiculousness. I'll stick to actual Silverwing topics, where I can offer my expertise up to people who need some help. Hopefully I don't come across there as being offensive, arrogant, abrasive, and generally cocky.

bigbird wrote:

bob wells wrote:

I am not sure this is accurate, but I find many of your post to be very offensive. The arrogance, abrasiveness and general "cockingness" is very offensive .

What posts do you find offensive?ALL
Those relating to this ridiculous topic, or others? ALL
I was taught NOT to fight and kill. Now those are words that all of Mankind should live by.
Hopefully I don't come across there as being offensive, arrogant, abrasive, and generally cocky.unfortunately, you do.

I, personally, notice that wherever you post here, you come across as a know-it-all with a 'superior than thou' tone.

But what do I know? I 'm a new member

IDwingit wrote:

I, personally, notice that wherever you post here, you come across as a know-it-all with a 'superior than thou' tone.
But what do I know? I 'm a new member

That's fair. My response is that I guess I do know it all compared to about 95% of the other members on here. I try to help a lot of members with their technical questions, and I don't have the time to sugar coat, handhold, and elaborate on everything. Often the same question comes up over and over. I tell them the "Search" function is included in the forum to not waste others' time. I personally feel that I give a lot more than I get here.
There are also more than a few members here who post as though they know what they are talking about, but their advice is very often dead wrong. I often post followups to their misinformation with some sarcasm.
Do I know what I'm talking about? You tell me. Am I short or sarcastic? Sometimes, especially if you post incorrect info or BS. Am I a know-it-all? Nobody knows everything. Do I piss you off? Sounds like it. Do I care? Yes.
That's why I rebutted your observation. If I didn't care, I'd be long gone from here.

Odd that someone who professes to be more "civilized" than the rest of us should take such an antagonistic stance. I'd rather share company with someone who doesn't feel that politeness and sensitivity towards others is a waste of time than the most astute know-it-all. You can have the most wonderful wisdom there is but if you're offensive nobody will listen.

I never suggested I would carry the AK in my Swing for protection. I was only amazed it fit.

This could come in handy if I wanted to travel to my folks place and do some shooting in the countryside. Currently that is about it.

There is a risk and danger of our economy collapsing because no one in Washington is working to avert it. In that case an AK in my silver wing concept takes on new practicle meaning rather then the less then serious post here, but then that is a discussion for another day and probably other forums.

bob wells wrote:

bigbird wrote:

Somerled wrote:

Canada, on the other hand, has a population less than 1/3 of 1% of the US which alone makes it easier to monitor and maintain.

Not sure where you got those incorrect population figures from.
The US population is currently 312.1 million.
Canada's current population is 34.6 million, which is 11% of the US population.

As a country, we are more civilized, better educated, and have nowhere near your embedded intolerances and fears.

I am not sure this is accurate, but I find many of your post to be very offensive. The arrogance, abrasiveness and general "cockingness" is very offensive . Especially from a "guru".
Our founding fathers in the USA decided that we needed the right to bear arms as civilians. We broke away from England to have that right. So, please don't belittle us because of a founding believe. I have traveled in Canada, Europe and Japan, and have found laws and culture that I have not always agreed with, I have not criticized them.
It sounds like (in many of your post, as with this one) you are trying to pick a fight. I hope I can stay above that. I have been taught through all of my martial arts training to do so, but I was also taught to defend my family, myself and my honor.

Heiwa,
Bob

My first thought is,
I wonder how effective a 61 year old ninja would be against an AK-47 . . . . . .Hmmm.

Personally, im glad BigBird has the balls to speak his mind, conformity of so boring.

Everybody Chillax!

This is a great lesson in the fact that everything will offend somebody.
I once saw a comedian who said,
"Its my job to offend everyone in the crowd on some level.
If I don't, then that offends me."

If we are afraid to say something because we will offend somebody,
we will never say anything to anybody.

Remember that 90% of the things that offend us, are not the subject
matter, but the tone of the discussion. It's not what you say,
but rather how you say it.

Peace,

Dan

bigbird wrote:

IDwingit wrote:

I, personally, notice that wherever you post here, you come across as a know-it-all with a 'superior than thou' tone.
But what do I know? I 'm a new member

That's fair. My response is that I guess I do know it all compared to about 95% of the other members on here. I try to help a lot of members with their technical questions, and I don't have the time to sugar coat, handhold, and elaborate on everything. Often the same question comes up over and over. I tell them the "Search" function is included in the forum to not waste others' time. I personally feel that I give a lot more than I get here.
There are also more than a few members here who post as though they know what they are talking about, but their advice is very often dead wrong. I often post followups to their misinformation with some sarcasm.
Do I know what I'm talking about? You tell me. Am I short or sarcastic? Sometimes, especially if you post incorrect info or BS. Am I a know-it-all? Nobody knows everything. Do I piss you off? Sounds like it. Do I care? Yes.
That's why I rebutted your observation. If I didn't care, I'd be long gone from here.

Your not as smart as Darth Grinsel!

This reminds me of when we use to introduce a new rooster into the hen yard.
Feathers flew until the new pecking order was reached.



MaxB

Tagg wrote:

Your not as smart as Darth Grinsel!

I bet I could find a clean public Tennessee bathroom quicker than John.
Wait a minute.
Clean and public Tennessee bathroom.
There's an oxymoron.

Darth who? That reminds me, my E-11 Stormtrooper blaster will fit under my Silver wing's seat too.

SilverwingInIdaho wrote:

Darth who? That reminds me, my E-11 Stormtrooper blaster will fit under my Silver wing's seat too.

Do a search on John Grinsel.

He's a legend here.

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