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+7ulflyer bigbird The Scootist AAAA Cosmic_Jumper honda_silver dspevack 11 posters |
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dspevack Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2008 Age : 59 Location : Miami, FL Points : 8211 Registration date : 2008-12-27
| Subject: New Brand of variator now available. Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:09 pm | |
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honda_silver Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2453 Location : Georgetown, Tx Points : 8372 Registration date : 2008-12-23
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:02 pm | |
| - dspevack wrote:
- New Variator
Martin Racing Performance (MRP) was a US distributor for Dr Pulley then created their own "identical" sliders to Dr Pulley while still being a Dr Pulley Distributor till they were revoked by Dr Pulley. As I recall Dr Pulley tested the MRP sliders and they were made of incorrect material that would could have caused damage per Dr Pulley. |
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Cosmic_Jumper Site Admin
Number of posts : 4415 Age : 81 Location : damn near Philadelphia, PA Points : 10745 Registration date : 2009-06-12
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:14 pm | |
| Looks like a knock-off of a J.Costa Variator.
Wonder if this version will be an improvement on the short life span of J.Costa's pins? |
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AAAA Silver Wing Rider
Number of posts : 442 Points : 5650 Registration date : 2010-11-14
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:38 pm | |
| - honda_silver wrote:
- dspevack wrote:
- New Variator
Martin Racing Performance (MRP) was a US distributor for Dr Pulley then created their own "identical" sliders to Dr Pulley while still being a Dr Pulley Distributor till they were revoked by Dr Pulley.
As I recall Dr Pulley tested the MRP sliders and they were made of incorrect material that would could have caused damage per Dr Pulley. So who sells Dr. pulley sliders now? |
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The Scootist Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 693 Age : 67 Location : Loveland, Colorado Points : 6453 Registration date : 2009-01-23
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:08 pm | |
| Monster buggy parts is a distributor of the sliders |
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dspevack Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2008 Age : 59 Location : Miami, FL Points : 8211 Registration date : 2008-12-27
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:59 pm | |
| I had no idea about the drama of MRP. and Dr. Pulley. I just happened to come across the information looking for something else and thought I'd share it.
This information is in no way a recommendation for or against.
Dan
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2387 Location : Winnipeg Points : 7907 Registration date : 2010-05-02
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:29 am | |
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dspevack Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2008 Age : 59 Location : Miami, FL Points : 8211 Registration date : 2008-12-27
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:11 am | |
| There is nothing on the turbokit.net site which is where MRP says they are getting it. There is also no pricing information. Ever since scootertrap closed there has been no USA source for JCosta that I am aware of, So IF it is a knockoff of JCosta, and IF it is as good or better, than it may be a blessing for us to have a new USA distributor for JCosta-esque Variators.
BUT, thats a lot of "IFs".
Dan
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ulflyer Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 153 Location : Lexington NC Points : 4962 Registration date : 2011-10-27
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:23 am | |
| I know some of you are using the J.Costa but I recall reading on the Burg400 forum that a couple guys had their splines damaged by the JC. Also probs with the bronze/copper? sliding gadget getting dry and not working as it should. You can prob go their forum and do a search for more details.
I tried one on my B400 for a short time but didn't see any real benefit to me so I went back to the OEM variator but changed the sliders to Dr. Pully. Prob will put them in the SW when I have occasion to open the CVT case. |
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MaxB Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 302 Age : 73 Location : Indiana Points : 5886 Registration date : 2009-10-06
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:14 pm | |
| Looking at some pics on the MRP site, one of them had J Costa stamped on the brass/graphite senter section.
Again no prices. But they are a wholesaler, and need to get from a dealer.
MaxB (still running the J Costa) |
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buddy19520 Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 378 Location : Cornelius NC Points : 5792 Registration date : 2010-02-28
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:45 pm | |
| - ulflyer wrote:
- I know some of you are using the J.Costa but I recall reading on the Burg400 forum that a couple guys had their splines damaged by the JC.
Also probs with the bronze/copper? sliding gadget getting dry and not working as it should. You can prob go their forum and do a search for more details.
I tried one on my B400 for a short time but didn't see any real benefit to me so I went back to the OEM variator but changed the sliders to Dr. Pully. Prob will put them in the SW when I have occasion to open the CVT case. I put a JC on my Silverwing in Jan 2010. I've put 13,000 miles on it since then and love the performance. However, the problem that I am having is that the brass and graphite bushing is getting gooey from something, and it makes it harder for the inner face of the variator to slide in/out. It tends to hold the rpm's a little too high. I took it apart several times this summer and cleaned it, but within a few hundred miles it was sticking again. I decided to apply a drop of Mobil 1 motor oil to the bushing and found that it worked better than keeping the bushing dry and clean. I've done about 2000 miles since then and it still works fairly well, but not as well as a new JC works. The belt and JC pins were replaced this summer. I've come to the conclusion that it is a race part, and durability is not what it was designed for. I will be ordering some 24 gram Dr. Pulley sliders for use when the J Costa becomes more trouble than it is fun. |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2387 Location : Winnipeg Points : 7907 Registration date : 2010-05-02
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:49 pm | |
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shirox Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 6 Age : 45 Location : Singapore Points : 5166 Registration date : 2010-10-09
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:45 am | |
| Well from our part of the world in asia, it seems that the Malossi 24g rollers is also a viable option as Dr pulley sliders "eat" into the stock variator. Yes I totally agree that Jcosta's performance is unbeatable only that the cost that it requires constant maintenance of the pushers (replacement at 12000km?) I am going to change to the Malossi rollers tomorrow and see how much enhancement it does to the scooter. |
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ulflyer Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 153 Location : Lexington NC Points : 4962 Registration date : 2011-10-27
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:59 am | |
| Shirox: when you refer to the DPSliders "eating into the variator", what part of the variator? Is it the outter edges? I don't have them in my Silverwing but did use them in previousl Burgman 400's. On those, some of us lightly filed the outter edges of the variator but only because it ate into the slider, or caused a slight "cut" across the slider. |
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honda_silver Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2453 Location : Georgetown, Tx Points : 8372 Registration date : 2008-12-23
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:55 am | |
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shirox Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 6 Age : 45 Location : Singapore Points : 5166 Registration date : 2010-10-09
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:04 pm | |
| hmm, we have a local distributor here in SG. And riders here are usually quite close to each other. We even have Scooter specialize shops here that mods and service scooters haha. All the sliders are authentic and some did faced problems and had feedbacks to the rest of the folks here. Jcosta is the more popular brands here nowadays. I personally have not tried the Dr Pulleys, however from the suggestions of my friends, i was taken back in trying them. We have a Group to Tmax riders here as well who uses Jcosta who gave fantastic feedbacks on its performance. I am actually torn between to bite the bullet and change to a JC or to just try it out with the malossi 24G rollers. Using a SWT400 now for a year So far I have Malossi clutch springs, torque springs installed. Modified my front fork for a more stiifer feel with lesser "springing" effect when i nego corners. |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2387 Location : Winnipeg Points : 7907 Registration date : 2010-05-02
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:15 pm | |
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Scootaboy Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 9 Location : United Kingdom Points : 4697 Registration date : 2012-01-28
| Subject: Re: New Brand of variator now available. Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:40 am | |
| I have done over 4,700 miles on Malossi rollers in a std variator,I took them out to check them this Winter and they are unmarked.They weigh about 6grams less than the std rollers so she seems to "spin up" quicker,when you slow around 40-50mph and then accelerate again.
Scootaboy... |
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