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JeffR_ Site Admin
Number of posts : 1103 Age : 65 Location : Bay Area, Ca Points : 9070 Registration date : 2010-05-12
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sat May 12, 2012 8:39 pm | |
| Bigbird wrote: "Did you install the Givi brackets or go bracketless like Jeff? Jeff's a risk-taking animal on his Swing. " Yeah, I'm the modern day James Dean. I just hope I don't run into that tree that James Dean ran into. There's a saying we had in the Marines...A Real Man goes bracketless on their SWing. |
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surlybiker58 Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 350 Location : Elkton , Maryland Points : 5096 Registration date : 2011-12-11
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sat May 12, 2012 11:18 pm | |
| It was the Givi standard
I haven't had it out on the road yet since i just installed it late today
But it should be a big improvement over the stock screen once I hit highway speeds |
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surlybiker58 Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 350 Location : Elkton , Maryland Points : 5096 Registration date : 2011-12-11
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sat May 12, 2012 11:21 pm | |
| I didn't see any point in installing the two small metal braces since Honda did not think it necessary to require them on the OEM shield |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2387 Location : Winnipeg Points : 7902 Registration date : 2010-05-02
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sat May 12, 2012 11:27 pm | |
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EasyRider SilverWinger Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 30 Age : 76 Location : St. John's NL Canada Points : 4640 Registration date : 2012-04-09
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sun May 13, 2012 6:53 am | |
| Hey Swingers, I installed my Givi adjustable a week ago. I live on a large island in the North Atlantic. We may experience a week of calm weather in a year. Usually it is windy and much of the time it is gusty and varies in direction as hills, trees, valleys, bays and coves all influence direction and most roads follow the coastline. Gusts of 60 to 70kmph (36-42mph) are common here and I have ridden in them with the OEM screen and it was not fun. My background is in design and construction. Looking at the OEM 6 screw mounts versus the Givi with extra flange brackets and extra drilled screw into an existing although hidden threaded nut mount, it just made prudent sense to take the extra step, time and careful drilling to align with nut mount. I also removed the front meter visor to satisfy myself my drill would meet up and not damage mount and it eases the mind considerably seeing what your drilling Looking at the added structural support of the flange and drilled connector and remembering the OEM screen's excessive top flapping at speed I strongly advise all with Givi adjustable to install install this additional hardware. I'm happy with my Givi adjustable because it is adjustable and my riding conditions vary. It is quieter too as I finally heard the Swing at speed and the excessive vibrations are gone.....although the Beach Boys liked them. Easy. |
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surlybiker58 Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 350 Location : Elkton , Maryland Points : 5096 Registration date : 2011-12-11
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sun May 13, 2012 11:17 am | |
| Bowing to the advice above, Ill go and install the brackets
Just probably won't get around till next week end |
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surlybiker58 Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 350 Location : Elkton , Maryland Points : 5096 Registration date : 2011-12-11
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sat May 19, 2012 5:21 pm | |
| Installed the brackets today after riding around all week without them The Givi is a big improvement over stock. Makes you wonder Honda doesn't off an optional taller screen . After all, there's a lot of us out there who aren't vertically impaired. I can see the value of the brackets since they help spread the stress load.
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surlybiker58 Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 350 Location : Elkton , Maryland Points : 5096 Registration date : 2011-12-11
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sun May 20, 2012 9:47 am | |
| I also forgot to mention that I used an old CD (compact disc) to help work the windshield garnish loose. It makes an excellent tool for that purpose. |
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surlybiker58 Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 350 Location : Elkton , Maryland Points : 5096 Registration date : 2011-12-11
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sun May 20, 2012 3:01 pm | |
| No, I never owned a CD by the Bee Gees, though using it as a tool is probably the best use of any CD by them. It was an old computer CD from one of my wife's classes . I though I might as well put it to some useful purpose. |
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Waspie Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2392 Age : 72 Location : Portland, UK Points : 8143 Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sun May 20, 2012 5:33 pm | |
| If I owned a Bee Gees CD it would be top of my list of CD's to use as a coaster for my coffee mug or a suitable item to prise off my front garnish. |
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RArch Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 613 Age : 57 Location : West London, UK Points : 5409 Registration date : 2011-11-07
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon May 21, 2012 1:54 am | |
| You may want to hold on to those Bee Gees disks...
Bee Gees' singer Robin Gibb has died aged 62 after a lengthy battle with cancer |
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Waspie Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2392 Age : 72 Location : Portland, UK Points : 8143 Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon May 21, 2012 6:22 am | |
| - RArch wrote:
- You may want to hold on to those Bee Gees disks...
Bee Gees' singer Robin Gibb has died aged 62 after a lengthy battle with cancer So if I die will that increase the value of my Silver Wing? |
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robert Super Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 267 Age : 81 Location : arizona Points : 5458 Registration date : 2010-09-19
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon May 21, 2012 10:32 am | |
| I love the BeeGees, have all their records, also love Donna Summer, disco brought alot of joy to many people, Donna and Robin RIP. |
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JeffR_ Site Admin
Number of posts : 1103 Age : 65 Location : Bay Area, Ca Points : 9070 Registration date : 2010-05-12
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon May 21, 2012 6:36 pm | |
| I still wear leisure suites everyday. With the open shirt and 70's doo. |
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bigbird Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2387 Location : Winnipeg Points : 7902 Registration date : 2010-05-02
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon May 21, 2012 6:47 pm | |
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honda_silver Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2453 Location : Georgetown, Tx Points : 8367 Registration date : 2008-12-23
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surlybiker58 Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 350 Location : Elkton , Maryland Points : 5096 Registration date : 2011-12-11
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Wed May 23, 2012 9:47 pm | |
| If you can't bear to use one of your Bee Gee's CDs , any CD by ABBA or Slim Whitman will work just as well
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"Hi Yo" Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2940 Age : 75 Location : Winnsboro, Texas, U.S.A. Points : 8553 Registration date : 2010-02-17
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Wed May 23, 2012 11:35 pm | |
| - surlybiker58 wrote:
If you can't bear to use one of your Bee Gee's CDs , any CD by ABBA or Slim Whitman will work just as well WARNING!!! Do not use Willie Nelson CDs. Doing so may cause the shield to turn smokey. |
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MQQNIE Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 7 Location : Cincinnati Points : 4551 Registration date : 2012-06-09
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:54 pm | |
| Thanks for this pictorial, it was a great help! |
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JeffR_ Site Admin
Number of posts : 1103 Age : 65 Location : Bay Area, Ca Points : 9070 Registration date : 2010-05-12
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:49 am | |
| Hey MQQNIE,
Glad it helped you out. How do you like the new screen? |
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MQQNIE Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 7 Location : Cincinnati Points : 4551 Registration date : 2012-06-09
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:27 pm | |
| - JeffR_ wrote:
- Hey MQQNIE,
Glad it helped you out. How do you like the new screen? I love it!!! |
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rock1973 Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 12 Age : 50 Location : Hillsboro, IL Points : 4480 Registration date : 2012-08-29
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:48 pm | |
| I swapped out the stocker today for the Givi Airflow. It took less than 30 minutes with this very helpful walk through. The air is much cleaner and quieter on all settings. I think I'll stick with the middle setting as to keep the top of the screen out of my eyeline. Thank you so much for posting the pictorial. I'm sure I could've figured it out, but there was zero guesswork involved thanks to you. I opted to NOT use the aluminum brackets due to my lack of drilling confidence. Thanks again. Steve |
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marco Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 91 Location : manchester Points : 5354 Registration date : 2010-07-21
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:05 am | |
| Im awaiting delivery of my airflow screen, hopefully any day now, I'll fit the metal brackets as I think they are there for a reason, and givi are the experts, honda dont use them on the stock screen, but the givi is bigger causing maybe a bit more stress on the brackets, also honda threaded the top framework for a reason. it will just give me piece of mind on windy days riding on the motorway. |
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DaveR Silver Wing Rider
Number of posts : 440 Age : 88 Location : Scottsbluff, Nebraska U.S.A Points : 6202 Registration date : 2009-02-19
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:23 am | |
| Can someone post a good clear picture of where the brackets go on the Givi windscreens? I have the brackets and have not put them on yet but may do it. I have probably put close to 20,000 miles on without them. Old Dave in Western Nebraska |
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MikeO Site Admin
Number of posts : 3837 Age : 75 Location : Seaham, Co Durham, UK Points : 9701 Registration date : 2009-06-29
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:42 am | |
| Have a look at the first post in this thread: https://www.silverwing600.com/t46-givi-windshield-installation-pictorialDownload the pdf link. Then look at the pictures of the six grommets, three each side, which are marked 'Don't push hard on them'. Just below them are two set-screws. Remove them with an Allen-key and offer up and bolt on the brackets with the bent bit forwards - bolts marked '5' in the diagram marco's posted below. It is obvious, even to me, how they fit. Then check my last post in the linked thread about drilling the hole in the plastic using the front hole in the bracket as a guide. Although Givi's own instruction sheet is pretty naff, it does show all this. I promise you it's straight-forward - I did mine with written help (lots of it) from members, but no pictures.
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marco Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 91 Location : manchester Points : 5354 Registration date : 2010-07-21
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:16 am | |
| heres a link to the bracket instalation http://www.givi.co.uk/attachfile/content/prodotti_regionali_uk/21439/0.0.1.man_d214kit.pdf |
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MikeO Site Admin
Number of posts : 3837 Age : 75 Location : Seaham, Co Durham, UK Points : 9701 Registration date : 2009-06-29
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:20 am | |
| Thanks, Mark. I think I've made a mistake in my last post regarding the bolts. I will correct it -done.
I'd be very happy if someone checks my instructions.
As I said, it really is obvious how it all fits once the plastic's off. |
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Dimond Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 540 Age : 79 Location : San Francisco Bay Area Points : 5528 Registration date : 2011-08-07
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:40 am | |
| I installed the brackets as I could think of no good reason not to AND I usually defer to the manufacturer recommendations. True that Honda did not have them on the OEM shield - but all can attest to the great amount of 'flex' in the OEM shield. I am convinced that the 'mouse ears' on the GIVI give the lower part great stability partly due to the reverse curve that they add - but this curve AND the increased area likely adds more force on the shield. There are probably more nuts, bolts, and screws on the SWing than are truly necessary - but I ask you if you leave some of them off when you reassemble your SWing to save a bit of time? |
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marco Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 91 Location : manchester Points : 5354 Registration date : 2010-07-21
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:32 am | |
| A couple of pics when installing my airflow showing the said brackets. URL=https://2img.net/r/ihimg/photo/my-images/525/dsc01382x.jpg/] [/URL] URL=https://2img.net/r/ihimg/photo/my-images/155/dsc01381z.jpg/] [/URL] hope thede help anyone thinking of fitting the givi screen and brackets. |
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MikeO Site Admin
Number of posts : 3837 Age : 75 Location : Seaham, Co Durham, UK Points : 9701 Registration date : 2009-06-29
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:08 pm | |
| Indeed they will! It's the anxiety over where and how to fit the brackets that puts some people off using them.
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alanferrari Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 4 Age : 87 Location : UK Points : 4492 Registration date : 2012-08-08
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:20 pm | |
| I would just like to know if anyone has installed a Madstad screen and what they think of it ? |
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Waspie Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2392 Age : 72 Location : Portland, UK Points : 8143 Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:54 am | |
| - alanferrari wrote:
- I would just like to know if anyone has installed a Madstad screen and what they think of it ?
Hardly going to be noticed in a Givi thread!!!! Try starting a new thread posing your question it will register on latest topics and stand a better chance of receiving a proper response! Or conversely, do a search to check out if the topic has been discussed in the past! |
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Meldrew Visiting Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 4218 Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK Points : 9441 Registration date : 2010-11-16
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:42 am | |
| It already has, and if you factor in the price of the Madstad screen plus postage to the UK, and then being shafted again for Import Duty, and V.A.T. for a screen which may or may not suit your needs, then you're better off buying the Givi Airflow. |
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MikeO Site Admin
Number of posts : 3837 Age : 75 Location : Seaham, Co Durham, UK Points : 9701 Registration date : 2009-06-29
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:20 am | |
| I've just had another look at the pictures; it's good you didn't tidy up before you took them as there's a bit of plastic swarf below the 'new' bolt for which one has to drill the hole - the captive nut is just under the plastic. |
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marco Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 91 Location : manchester Points : 5354 Registration date : 2010-07-21
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:32 am | |
| I cant say I left the swarf there on purpose mike, I was just rushing the photo's before it started raining on sunday afternoon. |
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Atrick Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 198 Age : 75 Location : England Points : 4671 Registration date : 2012-09-04
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:33 pm | |
| Installing the Airflow was quite simple - I fitted the brackets since I figured they'd spread any load better across the 3 rubber grommets. With the brackets on, the screen seemed rock solid so I didn't bother to drill/screw the top holes however and, after 4 weeks use, haven't noticed any problems. The bike's now done a whole 170 miles.... |
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MikeO Site Admin
Number of posts : 3837 Age : 75 Location : Seaham, Co Durham, UK Points : 9701 Registration date : 2009-06-29
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:57 pm | |
| LOL - I didn't think you did, Mark, but it was fortuitous as it points clearly to the bolt for which the plastic has to be drilled. |
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ridr44 Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 72 Age : 70 Location : Long Island, New York Points : 5393 Registration date : 2010-06-04
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:58 am | |
| I have had Givi screens on my past two SW's. It has always bothered me to have my line of sight at or slightly below the edge of the screen. For this reason I am thinking of going to the medium clearview screen this time. Does anyone have any input comparing the two brands/screens? Thanks Dan |
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MikeO Site Admin
Number of posts : 3837 Age : 75 Location : Seaham, Co Durham, UK Points : 9701 Registration date : 2009-06-29
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:42 pm | |
| Did you have the Airflow screens? I have mine set so I can see over it but could slide the top section up to see through it - it has considerable adjustment. |
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ridr44 Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 72 Age : 70 Location : Long Island, New York Points : 5393 Registration date : 2010-06-04
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:15 pm | |
| I had the regular ones. Have you ever had one of those to compare? When you raise the shield is it similar to the regular one? It seems like there might be more distortion especially when you look through two shields... |
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Waspie Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2392 Age : 72 Location : Portland, UK Points : 8143 Registration date : 2009-07-26
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:11 pm | |
| - ridr44 wrote:
- I had the regular ones. Have you ever had one of those to compare? When you raise the shield is it similar to the regular one? It seems like there might be more distortion especially when you look through two shields...
You don't actually look through 'two' screens. The lower section, fixed, is quite low and doesn't impede your visuals at all. The upper section has no noticeable aberrations as far as I can see! |
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cjuzda Maxi-Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 133 Location : Ontario, Canada Points : 5107 Registration date : 2011-05-16
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:24 pm | |
| - ridr44 wrote:
- I have had Givi screens on my past two SW's. It has always bothered me to have my line of sight at or slightly below the edge of the screen. For this reason I am thinking of going to the medium clearview screen this time. Does anyone have any input comparing the two brands/screens? Thanks Dan
This is not an issue at all with the Givi Airflow. You can adjust it easily to see over the top. At lowest adjustment is is much lower than the stock screen. Hard to compare the Airflow to Clearview - apples and oranges due to the Airflow's adjustability - just move it where you want it. |
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paul.delo451 Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 49 Age : 63 Location : Coventry UK Points : 4484 Registration date : 2012-09-30
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:19 pm | |
| Well, the instructions on here were brilliant, but I still managed to f it up. Somehow the screws for the new bracket won't meet the intended target, so I left the brackets on without the extra bolts and if need be I will get a nut and bolt and so something like that.
Can't wait to try it out tomorrow. Thanks for the pictorial. |
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scooterboyz Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 25 Age : 55 Location : new haven, ct Points : 4440 Registration date : 2012-10-24
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slapshot Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 1 Location : Bremerton, Washington Points : 4208 Registration date : 2013-05-12
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sun May 12, 2013 3:17 pm | |
| Recently purchased a 2005 SW with a Givi windshield in place and the stock one thrown in. Since I prefer not looking through a windshield while riding, I wanted to switch to the stock unit ASAP. It looked complicated, but after reviewing the pictorial I jumped right in. Took 20 minutes start to finish. Just want to say thanks to the pictorial author and the Forum. I expect to spend much time learning from other members. GREAT resource! Allen |
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JeffR_ Site Admin
Number of posts : 1103 Age : 65 Location : Bay Area, Ca Points : 9070 Registration date : 2010-05-12
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Sun May 12, 2013 9:36 pm | |
| Allen,
Welcome to the forum and glad the pictorial worked out for you. |
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Swivel Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 1 Location : UK Points : 4157 Registration date : 2013-07-02
| Subject: Thanks for the pictorial Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:50 am | |
| Great pictorial and thanks for the warning about the little rubber things. The front panel was a bit fiddly to ease off but eventually came away without any damage to the lugs. I fitted a Givi 214D screen to a 2010 Silver Wing and it did not require any brackets or drilling. |
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Colin B Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 586 Age : 72 Location : Windsor, UK Points : 4907 Registration date : 2013-03-20
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:28 am | |
| - surlybiker58 wrote:
- work the windshield garnish loose.
What is this garnish of which you speak? Is it relevant when fitting an Airflow? Over here, "garnish" usually means a pathetic example of a salad served with a steak - half a tomato and a wilted lettuce leaf! Sometimes, if the "chef" is feeling creative, you may get some grated carrot! |
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surlybiker58 Touring Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 350 Location : Elkton , Maryland Points : 5096 Registration date : 2011-12-11
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:57 am | |
| It's the plastic trim piece that covers the Windshield fasteners . Over here it means any kind of decorative trim |
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Meldrew Visiting Curmudgeon
Number of posts : 4218 Location : York, North Yorkshire, England UK Points : 9441 Registration date : 2010-11-16
| Subject: Re: Givi Windshield Installation Pictorial Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:03 am | |
| The 'garnish' is that large W shaped plastic cover on the front of the scooter than covers the bolts that hold the screen in place. It's held in place by 4 screws, 2 in the centre above the headlight, and 1 either side of the screen. Unscrew them and remove the garnish by pulling down, being careful not to break the clips on the inside of the garnish. |
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