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surlybiker58
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PostSubject: Oil Drain Plug   Oil Drain Plug I_icon_minitimeSat May 05, 2012 5:12 pm


Does anyone make an aftermarket drain plug with a more
substantial bolt surface than the OEM ?

Change my oil today , and the thin side surface doesn't instill
confidence that it will hold up for the long term.
I did use a six point socket and a torque wrench

Back on my old CB550k , t went to an aftermarket old filter
cover bolt the because the Honda stock one was so flimsy.
Makes you wonder what the engineers were thinking of
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Drain Plug   Oil Drain Plug I_icon_minitimeSat May 05, 2012 5:58 pm

I've fitted aftermarket magnetic oil drain plugs to a few bikes and scooters, and they're cheap, effective, and were good quality. I bought mine from Hein Gericke in the UK. There's plenty for sale on the Internet.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Drain Plug   Oil Drain Plug I_icon_minitimeSat May 05, 2012 8:11 pm

My Silver Wing is still under Honda Warranty, and it was Serviced last week. I won't know the size until I start changing the oil myself, and when the drain plug is out I'll measure the screw pitch. Then I'll get a magnetic drain plug. The popular sizes sold are M 12 x 1.5, M 14 x 1.25, and M 14 x 1.5, and I've recently recycled last years Hein Gericke, Polo, and Louis catalogues so you'll have to look online.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Drain Plug   Oil Drain Plug I_icon_minitimeSat May 05, 2012 11:06 pm

Thanks for the feedback.

I did check out the Hein Gerike UK website (They don't list one for
the US) but did not find any listing for drain plugs .

I guess I 'm the only one who seems to thinks it's a design flaw on Honda's part

I can always replace it with another $19 OEM one when it gets worn

It doesn't seem like Honda has bothered to fix the small niggling flaws
with the wing:The narrow mirrors. the seat light and latch, and the non functional windshield (over 60mph at least)
By the way, I just ordered a Givi windshield that I hope to have installed
next week
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Drain Plug   Oil Drain Plug I_icon_minitimeSun May 06, 2012 12:12 am

Not a design flaw, just something Honda had siting around.

http://www.powersportsplus.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-12361-KK0-000.html

Part Number Variations
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12361-KK0-000 CAP, TAPT ADJ HOLE
Description
Purchase this Honda 12361-KK0-000 CAP, TAPT ADJ HOLE --- CAP, TAPPET ADJUSTING HOLE (Honda Code 1592807)
This Honda 12361-KK0-000 CAP, TAPT ADJ HOLE is also used on these models and components:

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Drain Plug   Oil Drain Plug I_icon_minitimeSun May 06, 2012 2:42 pm

when i changed my oil i found the drain plug made of a very soft alloy and none of the metric sockets i had fit tightly. I found an old Triumph ring spanner(wrench) in Whitworth measurement fitted it perfectly,so i now use that. Just shows, you should never throw anything away. Smile
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PostSubject: Spanner   Oil Drain Plug I_icon_minitimeMon May 07, 2012 10:49 am

I have done the same and now use a six point, 24mm wrench (ring spanner) of roughly the same thickness as the drain plug's head height, for a more certain grip. Working from the right side of the Silver Wing, the wrench handle turns sufficiently to loosen the drain plug without contacting any other part of the bike.

A six-point, 24mm socket will do the job, but I am concerned about rounding the head with sockets, so my preference is to use the wrench after having used sockets on previous oil changes.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Drain Plug   Oil Drain Plug I_icon_minitimeMon May 07, 2012 12:21 pm

See, redeye, we know a trick or two don't we!! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Drain Plug   Oil Drain Plug I_icon_minitimeMon May 07, 2012 2:42 pm

True indeed, Old Limey. It certainly doesn't help matters that I'm lying on the concrete garage floor and looking up at the bottom of the Silver Wing to place a tool in the proper position over the drain plug. The socket fits OK, but as you mentioned the wrench fits perfectly.
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