Are the metal brackets for the Givi wind screen needed?

I have the Givi windscreen on my SWing but did not use the metal brackets that came with it. It seems to do fine with no noticeable flexing. Did any one else with a Givi wind screen forgo the brackets or should I use them?

Installed a GIVI on my scooter, did not use them or need them.

DennisB

I have a Givi windshield. Came with the bike when I bought it used. Don't know what the brackets are or do.... man, I sure hope I don't find out I need them. I have put over 6,000 miles on my scoot since buying it.
Gary

Robin I have 27000 miles and 3 years on mi givi and never installed the metal brackits that had come with the Windshield. I have speeds f over 100 mph no im not proud of that but no problems at that speed also in the hight time of real hot summers no problems there either

I haven't installed them either. Couldn't figure out what they do so I just didn't use them.

can someone post a picture of the brackets we are discussing? I would like to see what they look like.

Gary

Gary trust me pal if pictures were given YOUDE SAY WHAT THE HELL ARE THOSE THINGS PAL I cant find mine or I would

It's possible that I do not completely understand the World Wide Web, but has anyone considered contacting GIVI with this question?

That thought came to me as I read this thread - so I sent an e-mail to GIVI USA from their website. I'll post their reply when/if I get a reply.

Dale all I can tell you is that I built my show car BUT ILL BE DAMNED IF I KNEW HOW TO INSTALL THAT BRACKET!!!

All,

mickey has just posted a new thread about his installation of the GIVI windscreen. He used the brackets and did not have any diffculty installing them.

I did not receive a response from GIVI, so I called them directly at the NC location. the gentleman I spoke to worked in marketing and seemed very familiar with the question.

He told me the brackets were indeed included for the purpose of stiffening the windscreen when it is installed. My guess would be that the mechanical and dynamic engineers determined that the brackets would add a degree of support that most would not notice. I do not have a GIVI windscreen, but I've seen the brackets (only in photos) and have had the front cover off of both of the SilverWings we own. I do not think the installation of the brackets would be too hard. mickey describes it pretty well (I can visualize the task due to my personal experience).

As to the question - Are they needed? I can't say, there are plenty that have not installed them and have not experienced any problems or failures. I'd be interested in a side by side comparison - maybe I'd do that if someone wanted to purchase a pair of windscreens for our bikes .

Just a personal observation, but I put my Givi on without the brackets. Yes, maybe they are suppose to add some support for high speed forces, but I'm not planning on any prolonged visits at that level. Have been there (95+mph) a couple of times and that was enough for me.

I don't think they're needed, but the larger screen inevitably puts more stress on the frame.

For some bizarre reason the threaded nuts to support the Givi's extra screws are already in place. Honda put them there, but didn't use them for anything.

I had no problem installing the plates. I'd suggest using them. But if you didn't, and everything seems fine, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. The stock setup is pretty stout. I think the idea is more to safeguard the Givi itself, not the bike. You won't break the bike. Plexiglas is pretty unforgiving stuff, and Givi is probably just overengineering it a little bit to provide a more stable mounting base with a couple of extra anchor points.

It took me a few minutes of head scratching to figure out what the brackets were for, and how to mount them, but once the light dawned on me it made sense. Noticing the hidden Honda nuts with nothing attached to them was the key. Just be careful not to drill into the nuts themselves and mess up the threads.

And be careful not to pop out one of the little rubber-dampened mounting points from the stock screen and cause it to drop somewhere into the mysterious depths of the bike's guts.......but that's another story.

Hi Guys, can you tell me if the screen mountings are the same for all Silverwings or do they vary based on year of manufacture? I have a 2001 which I want to put a Givi adjustable screen on, but some of the screens state 2009+, hence the question. Not had a reply from Givi.

Hi jeff.

If you are referring to the Givi AF214 screen, I bought mine from Italy listed as 2001-2009.
I'll leave an Ebay link for you as they still sell them.
With reference to the Xtra brackets I have found that not using the brackets the first hole both sides nearest the screen edge where the brackets go, has started to split the Tupperware where the screen rubber well nuts lock in.
As the Tupperware is off at the moment for other repairs, I have reinforced the holes with stainless mesh melted into the plastics.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/353770853746

Hope this helps!
Be safe, be seen!

Ps. I will do a pictorial for others soon.

When I fitted the Givi screen I did use the brackets.
I was nonplussed at first as the captive nuts are hidden under the plastic!
When I realised it was not a problem, I used a drill-bit held in my hand to cut through - the plastic is very thin - so as not to accidentally damage the threads of the nuts.
I am a firm believer that parts included, with the screen in this case, are there for a reason so I fit them.

When Givi first brought out the Airflow for the Silver Wing many years ago there was much debate on here about fitting or leaving off the brackets. Looking back now, some owners seemed too cautious or even lazy to fit the brackets because of the captive nuts hidden behind the very thin plastic..


I remember fitting my Airflow in my winter cold garag and lining up the brackets and as MikeO says it seems a problem but it isn't.