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PostSubject: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 06, 2013 1:21 pm

I've had all the parts and pieces to install the DennisB light bar and Optronics driving lights along with a 12V power outlet in the LH storage for a few weeks now, but have been very intimidated at the thought of removing all that bodywork. I finally gathered my courage and started on the project yesterday. I'm not very far along as I have to work slow with frequent rests, but I'm making progress.

Relay & DennisB taillight connector mounted, but not yet wired:
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12V power outlet mounted: I used the pre-existing hole (covered with a rubber plug) in the LH storage box. The panel-mount 12V outlet I bought from PCA required a larger mounting hole than the existing hole, so I used a 1.25" 3-flute countersink mounted in my cordless drill to open the hole up. I was careful to remove only a little material at a time with several trial fits. I was able to do some final trimming of the hole with a knife and achieved a fit that allowed the power outlet to thread itself very tightly into the hole, eliminating the need to use the backing nut. That's a big plus as getting to the back side to install the jam nut would have required removing a lot more bodywork than I am comfortable with.
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Kinda ugly with all the pretty plastic off, ain't it? Laughing
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I'll take more photos and post them along with my experiences as the work progresses.
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 06, 2013 6:26 pm

A few more photos:

Wiring exiting the rear of the left floorboard support tube. Note the protective spiral wrap around the wires, The ends of the tube have extremely sharp burrs.
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And the front of the floorboard tube. Note that the front of the tube curves up.
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Plenty of wire pulled through to wire the lights and on/off switch.
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 06, 2013 7:09 pm

That is a clever method of running the wires to the front using the frame tubes Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeThu Jun 06, 2013 7:31 pm

RArch wrote:
That is a clever method of running the wires to the front using the frame tubes Smile

Straight from DennisB's instructions! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 09, 2013 1:05 pm

I see the light at the end of the tunnel! No work Friday. We went to pick up the Shadow Mini-Trailer from the factory Friday afternoon. (unexpected several days early call!)

The relay has been wired to the taillight connector and the fused power wire from the battery and the power wire to the front of the scooter are wired and routed. (Be generous with the wire ties. It makes for a neat installation and keeps everything where it belongs.)
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Power wire routing:
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Waterproof pushbutton switch for on/off control of the driving lights:
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Wire tie the switch wires to the handlebar to avoid stress on the switch:
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Don't forget to connect the ground wire to the ground lug!
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DennisB light bar installed and Optronics lights installed: (Yay!)
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All that remains is connecting the light wires, testing the lights and power outlet, and replacing the body panels!
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 09, 2013 1:27 pm

Looking good applause
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 09, 2013 5:45 pm

hotwings wrote:
Looking good applause
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 09, 2013 7:18 pm

I need a little help, please.

When I went to test the driving lights, They did not come on. I checked voltage at the front terminus of my lead wires from the relay in back. No voltage...

I noticed that the tail light was not on. I checked, and the rear turn signals work, but there are no brake lights. I immediately suspected the taillight connector, so removed it and plugged the stock taillight plugs back together. Same thing - turn signals, but no tail or brake lights.

I checked the taillight fuse with an ohmmeter and it is good. The inline fuse from the battery to the relay is good. (It would have no effect on the taillights though - different circuit.)

I checked the ground wire stack to make certain I did not miss one when I added the driving light ground.

What's up with that?
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 10, 2013 11:10 am

There were a couple of blown fuses. See my "I killed it" thread.

The problem turned out to be with the relay I purchased from Ebay. It was crap - internally shorted. A new relay from the local Auto Zone store fixed the problem and everything is now working correctly. Smile

Now comes the fun part - putting all that bodywork back in place! Rolling Eyes Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 10, 2013 9:41 pm

All Done!

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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 4:49 pm

Nice, they will give it a good presence on the road.

I wonder could you fit some sort of daylight running LED on each of the rear mudguards... another project perhaps Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 4:55 pm

RArch wrote:
Nice, they will give it a good presence on the road.

I wonder could you fit some sort of daylight running LED on each of the rear mudguards... another project perhaps Smile

I have thought of that. Danson offers a tail/brake/turn signal light kit for their conversions, but I have no idea what is involved in installing one, or what it's like. It should not be all that hard to fit a couple of LED trailer lights to the fenders, if some stylish ones could be found.
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 5:33 pm

Gyro wrote:
RArch wrote:
Nice, they will give it a good presence on the road.

I wonder could you fit some sort of daylight running LED on each of the rear mudguards... another project perhaps Smile

I have thought of that. Danson offers a tail/brake/turn signal light kit for their conversions, but I have no idea what is involved in installing one, or what it's like. It should not be all that hard to fit a couple of LED trailer lights to the fenders, if some stylish ones could be found.

Give these a gander ....

http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/PB_Features.shtml

....... or those ........

http://www.hyperlites.com/hyperwhite.html

BTW, nice job on the light bar install and the troubleshooting.
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 7:38 pm

Gyro thats a nice looking combo you have. Was never a fan of anything "triked" but i'll admit yours looks sharp especially with the trailer!! Good job!!
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 10:03 am

Gyro, I'll second what hotwings said.
That's a good looking trike/trailer combo.  Good work.
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PostSubject: Re: Installation of DennisB light bar   Installation of DennisB light bar I_icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 10:21 am

I emailed Danson and asked for details on their lighting kit.  They sent me a complete set of installation instructions and a photo of the lighting kit installed on a Suzuki B400.
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That's a $250.00 lighting kit.

Err, Umm...........Shocked
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