Seat piston thingy

First topic message reminder :

Does anyone have problems with the piston thingy that holds up the seat just not working properly 50% of the time, ie seat slowly comes down? Is there a knack to getting the seat to stay up?

The strut can over time lose its ability to hold the saddle open.

On another note it has a limit to the amount of weight it can hold up. if the saddle has been modified - resulting in a heavier saddle - the strut will not be able to hold the saddle open.

This is a rather expensive OEM item. It might be worth while to look for a replacement at an auto parts store.

Hi,

This has been talked about on the silverwing.org sight, alot.

Here's the information thread:

http://www.silverwing.org/cgi-bin/topic_show.pl?pid=24377;hl=McMaster-carr

DennisB

DennisB wrote:

This has been talked about on the silverwing.org sight, alot.

Here's the information thread:

http://www.silverwing.org/cgi-bin/topic_show.pl?pid=24377;hl=McMaster-carr

After I added the Utopia backrest, the OEM strut no longer worke ... so I spent a lot of time searching for a stronger replacement. This strut works great even with all this on my OEM seam ... I have not had a single problem with all this gear:

- Utopia Backrest
- AirHawk Medium
- Alaskan Sheepskin Large
- Alaskan Sheepskin Medium
- Butt-rest removed

Thanks for the info.

Well, can anyone give me an idea of what this seat piston is or where I can get it without going to that-site-which-shall-remain-nameless?

Sick of my seat falling down. Heck, it is a 2002 and as far as I can tell this is the only worn out part! (it's my understanding that they weren't that great to start out.)

Hey, Give this thread a try: http://www.servicehonda.com/look-up-parts/03

$26.25 DAMPER, OPENER, 83590-MCT-003 original Honda

DuggleBogey wrote:

Well, can anyone give me an idea of what this seat piston is or where I can get it without going to that-site-which-shall-remain-nameless?

Sick of my seat falling down. Heck, it is a 2002 and as far as I can tell this is the only worn out part! (it's my understanding that they weren't that great to start out.)

I ordered my seat piston from http://www.mcmaster.com , which was a stronger and better piston.


1 @ 6465K12 REDUCIBLE-FORCE GAS SPRING, 3.94" STROKE, 90 LBS MAX FORCE, M5 MALE THREAD SZ

2 @ 6465K25 NYLON EYELET END FITTING FOR .59"CYLINDER
DIA, REDUCIBLE-FORCE GAS SPRING

I checked and they are still available.

The seat piston is adjustable, if you let out too much pressure it will not work.

I made sure I had everything installed that would be on the seat, then I added about 30 pounds. I slowly let out the air and tested occasionally the pressure to put the seat down.

With the extra weight on I could gauge the "give" point earlier.

Dan,

What did you do to your post ??

I have the stock seat. If I can't find a piston locally I will order the one mentioned and adjust it.

That was bizzar. I got rid of that mess.

Someone want to clue me in?
What happened to my post?
What was bazzar?
What mess?
Did John try to ban me from this site too?

I do know when I posted it told me that while I was writing my post someone else replied, and it asked me if I still wanted to post. I said yes.

All I posted was that corbin seats use a different, stronger piston, and if you had a corbin seat or wanted a stronger piston you could get it from Corbin.

Dan

Dan, Some how you copied and pasted a large portion of the same topic over it's self. Never seen that happen before. Please re-add your information.

What can I say? I'm an original!

Just curious, what happens if you do not let the gas out of the piston. Is it just harder to shut the seat or open it? My plan is to get a Russel Day Long in the next few weeks. I am expecting it to be heavier than stock. Anyone else have one of them?

Maybe you get a constipated piston?

Corbin includes a more robust piston with their saddles due to the extra weight of their saddle. You might contact them to see if they would sell you one of theirs

Opalsboy wrote:

Just curious, what happens if you do not let the gas out of the piston. Is it just harder to shut the seat or open it?

If you do not adjust the air pressure, the seat was incredibly hard to close ... I stopped trying. When adjusted properly, it is very easy to close.

Opalsboy wrote:

My plan is to get a Russel Day Long in the next few weeks.

I will have to see this seat when you get it

Opalsboy wrote:

JI am expecting it to be heavier than stock.

The McMaster piston can handle it.

Not to worry Gary. If it is heavier than stock, it's not much. The stock piston works VERY WELL for me.

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I ordered my seat piston from http://www.mcmaster.com, which was a stronger and better piston.

1 @ 6465K12 REDUCIBLE-FORCE GAS SPRING, 3.94" STROKE, 90 LBS MAX FORCE, M5 MALE THREAD SZ

The seat piston is adjustable, if you let out too much pressure it will not work.

I made sure I had everything installed that would be on the seat, then I added about 30 pounds. I slowly let out the air and tested occasionally the pressure to put the seat down.

I know this is an older post, but I had checked and these are still listed at McMaster. My question is, since these are adjustable, how is pressure added, i.e., is there a Schrader (tire) valve to add pressure if too much is let out, or the seat weight changes? If this is stated already, I must have missed it.

IIRC it's only adjustable in that you can let pressure out, but you are unable to add or replace lost pressure.

Seems to me too that someone recently found another strut option beside OEM & McMaster-Carr