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PostSubject: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 08, 2011 1:57 pm

I while back I had a Honda trail 90 with a auxilaily gas tank. I had purchased another gas filler cap for it but never installed it on the tank. So all these years I had this thing out in my garage. Well....

I got it out and looked at it and wondered if it would fit the Silverwing...Well it does!!

Honda part # 17620-102-730 (Honda Code 0835496) About $9.00 on-line.

Just if you ever wanted to replace the locking filler cap for those long trips.

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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 08, 2011 2:03 pm

Excellent piece of info.
Thanks, Dennis
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 08, 2011 3:56 pm

Thanks for the info .....

This would address that problem from a different angle.

https://www.silverwing600.com/t1656-key-knob?highlight=key+knob
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 08, 2011 4:16 pm

Thanks, DennisB. I would like the option of not using a key to open the gas cap. Found the part on a site just as you described. Very inexpensive. Thanks again.
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 08, 2011 5:21 pm

DennisB wrote:
Honda trail 90 with a auxilaily gas tank. ....
...fit the Silverwing...Well it does!! Honda part # 17620-102-730 (Honda Code 0835496) About $9.00 on-line.

Dennis

Does that Trail 90 fuel cap have the same shoulder & spring loaded 'ears' that hold the cap to the tank fill pipe?

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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 08, 2011 6:04 pm

Shoulder is same size, seal is same size and locking tabs same distance from stock Silverwing seal. Just an old style Honda cheapy fuel tank cap.

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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 09, 2011 10:35 am

The way gas prices are going, I'm afraid to take the locking cap off my Swing!

But seriously, since there's usually ~2 gal in it after a ride to or from work, I think I'll get this just to save myself some aggravation.
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 09, 2011 10:54 am

Any of the Honda Elite or Helix fuel caps will also work. But you have to get one with a flat cap --as in Dennis' photo. There a several of those caps which have a 'grab handle' on the top of the cap which will not allow the Silverwing's fuel access door to close.

There are several of those Elite gas caps currently shown on eBay --both types. Spendy though.
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 09, 2011 11:11 am

Tim,

That was a good suggestion.

I do like the Elite gas caps spring locking tabs. Looks like the Silverwings. The price is a bit to high. looks like Honda part # 17620-GE7-023 would work also. The lowest price I've seen so far is $27.99 for this filler cap.
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 09, 2011 3:27 pm

I kinda wish I could just leave it unlocked. Alas, they key won't come out.
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 09, 2011 4:32 pm

Is there not a after-market cap that will work. Something stright from the auto parts stores?
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 10, 2011 6:23 am

you will find they are generic with Suzuki, Kwaka and Yamahas' all having the same set up. The manufacturers of the caps would supply to all the big companies. Try the wreckers/ breakers for second hand units.
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 10, 2011 8:50 am

Great idea! I am getting me one of those also!
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 10, 2011 9:27 am

Thanks Dennis, such a great idea I had to order one. I've always thought it was a hassel to have to use the key, when who's going to mess with stealing 1 or 2 gallons of gas. The cheapest I could find, including shipping, was Bike Bandit at $16.97. Cap $10.02, shipping $6.95. Some of the sites I checked wanted up to $18 for shipping..
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 10, 2011 9:32 am

Well crap, just found one on e-bay for $14.95 including shipping. Just search for the part number 17620-102-730.
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 10, 2011 12:32 pm

Found one for $8.02, but shipping is $9.62!
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 10, 2011 2:07 pm

My german Hondadealer want 15€ i think ~18$ for this...

I ordered it now i need a placard that i use E10 fuel then noone want to steal my fuel here in germany Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 10, 2011 7:29 pm

I am German decendant, no problem with your English! Thanks for the comment, BlackFly. This is really a great Forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 22, 2011 10:33 pm

Hey all,

How about this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CH-250-CH250-Elite-HELIX-CN250-Fuel-Gas-Cap-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem41570f7cd7QQitemZ280633507031QQptZOtherQ5fVehicleQ5fParts
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 23, 2011 9:40 am

ehaughn wrote:
How about this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-CH-250-CH250-Elite-HELIX-CN250-Fuel-Gas-Cap-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem41570f7cd7QQitemZ280633507031QQptZOtherQ5fVehicleQ5fParts

Sorry Erick,

That one's not going to allow the fuel door to close. The only Elite gas cap that will work is the version with the "flat top" --not one with the "mohawk" top.

There are a couple of flat top Elite gas caps shown on the page, but the prices are outrageous --and then you get to pay a premium price for the seller to send it to you.

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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 23, 2011 3:11 pm

This might sound out of line, but what about having a copy of the key made (about $6), use it to "unlock" the fuel cap and cut it with a dremel so nothing extends beyond the top of the fuel cap. If it is smooth enough, it can be covered with a sticker or something that will hide the fact that there is a key in there.

If you ever need to lock it again, a screw driver will turn it to locked position and a long pair of pointy pliers can retrieve the stump so it can be locked/unlocked again with the uncut ignition key.
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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 23, 2011 4:32 pm

This sounds like the most intelligent and cost effective solution to a non-problem in a long time.

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PostSubject: Re: Non-locking Gas Filler Cap   Non-locking Gas Filler Cap I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 23, 2011 10:30 pm

Wish I though of that, perfect solution.

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