silverwing 600 2006 Model

Hi i was looking a buying a 2006 model silverwing 600 15,000 Kilometres on the speedo, are the any problems I should look for, I have a 2011 SYM firenze 300i at the moment but I am looking to upgrade any advise would be helpfull.

Only been back riding on 2 wheels for a year would the silverwing be a lot better than my current scooter would like to do some longer trips.

John,

Welcome to the site and hope you enjoy it. That is not many miles at all for a 2006 SWing and it should give you a lot of fun. The SWing is almost bullet-proof and there isn't anything really to be worried about. I would say it would be a good step up in terms of power, speed, and comfort but the mpg's would go down of course. You should have no problems with the SWing as long as you take it easy at first. Just remember that it is a very powerful and heavy scooter.

I have ridden m/c's and scooters for many, many years but don't think the 300i and the SWing will have the same power. If you give full throttle to the SWing you will get going very , very fast. But look it over good and see how you like it.
Keep us informed what you do either way and welcome.

Hi Thanks Jeff I am a bit worried about the weight difference, I know there is a lot of extra power, but I will get used to that. like the thought of ABS brakes and hope the silverwing handales the highway bumps better than my sym. last riding was years ago on BSA 650 don't remember getting blown around by the wing so much, I was a lot younger and a bit braver then, only been on short trips at the moment like the feel of my SYM at about 50 MPH would'nt like to go much faster yet, speed not important just like have a smooth and safe ride. John

johno1 You will love the Swing.
The silverwing will handle the highway bumps alot better than your sym.
You will get used to the extra weight difference in no time, in fact it is a big plus on the highways.

I do not know about your old model, however, the Swing does have buffeting problems on the Interstate at 65 mph (being lighter than my old vstar 1100)...I do have a Givi large windshield that helped...with that said: I enjoy the ride of my new Swing BETTER than the Vstar or Burgman that I owned in the past

Thanks for all the comments!, I will be looking at the 600 next week and if as good as advertised, will buy it. My second thought was the Burgman 650, but it don't seem to come too highly recommended on this forum. With a lot of Burgman owners now riding the 600 silverwing, are they that much better??.
Scooters are just starting to catch on here in Australia, everyone still thinks of the old vesper, most of the motor bike boys still look down there nose at scooter riders. There has only been a few of the larger scooters here, they were only ever a few sold, as motor bikes have always been the biggest seller. But now with the price of petrol getting higher the smaller 125cc are becoming more popular with the ladies for shopping, not too many over 150cc, there are only 2 here in my town a 400 Burgman and my SYM 263cc 300i.

There are many big maxi scooters around that are very good ,and the Swing seams to one of the most trouble free and easy scooter to work on . The service the a dealer provides is what most of us look for .

Hi tinman there are only the silverwing, burgman, yamaha500cc, and SYM have just released a 400cc scooter for $8,000.00 with15" wheels ABS etc. Aprilia are advertising a VRV 850 as the fastest production scooter in the world to be released in Australia in May for $17,490.00, but I don't think they will sell any. I will search around to find if any Dealer is selling new silverwing or bergman in Aus. Yamaha advertised 500cc but 2010 models, maybee they have a couple that they could never sell.

I hope to pick up the honda next week if it as good as advertised. My other thought was a 650 bergman but it don't seem to be very popular on this forum, I see some riders have sold them and prefer to ride the Silverwing.

If you want to find out about the 650 Burgman drive train problems ,there is some information in the search info hear ,or go on the Burgman site.They are a very good but heavy scooter and there has been drive line problems in the past on some of them.

Welcome John! I think you will really enjoy the SWing. I took mine on the freeway again today and it amazes me how smooth it is plus how easy to pass trucks etc. when necessary!

PLUS if memory serves (it may not) the 2006 is the only model to come in BLUE!!! I love that color!

Good luck.

My 09 swing was the last year sold in Canada. To buy a 13 swing we have to go to the US and pay border fees .

I had a Burgman 650 for a couple months. The scooter is definitely smoother than the SW and handles a bit quicker. The downside is the transmission. I didn't like the idea of a little electric motor with plastic gears adjusting the CVT. I also didn't like the fact that replacing the CVT requires nearly tearing the bike down completely. It's a MAJOR job. Changing spark plugs require removing a plastic cover and shifting the radiator for clearance. Just adding oil requires a big piece of plastic to be taken off for access to the oil filler. The Burgman is a great bike but a real maintenance nightmare in my opinion. The sudden and random failures of the transmissions are a crap shoot. Some fail others don't with no rhyme or reason. The scooter is almost a throw away if the gear box fails because it costs a bit north of $3000 to have them repaired if you can find a dealer who'll do it. To add to the woes of anyone tackling the repair job the Suzuki service manual is no where near as good as the Honda service manuals.
It's a shame because when all is well it's a great bike. Almost like a scooter version of a Goldwing in it's smoothness and features. I just didn't want to take the chance of losing the gearbox and have most of the value in my scooter drop to near nothing. Suzuki knows about the problem but don't seem to have anything in the works to cure it. I'll stick to the SW, a less sophisticated scooter but pretty bulletproof.

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Hi have found a Silverwing 600 2007 model with 34,000Kilometers (23000 miles) on clock if the 2005 model falls through would the 23000 miles be too much and need major service. John

John,

I have 34,000 miles on my SWing and it still runs great, just like new. Really better since I have done mods to it. If it is in good shape and runs really nice than I wouldn't worry at all about 23,000 miles. That isn't very many miles really.

I have 32k kl on my 09 Swing ,change synthetic oil every 10kl,oil look's like new ,it burns no oil use the Wix 51356 xtra long oil filter .My Swing is not broken in yet ,start to wary around 300k kl,then let us know when your at 600k kl. Don't wary be happy It's a Swing.

Over 43,000 on my 08 and runs as good as it did new. I would not worry about the miles as much as the cosmedics. If it looks like it has been taken care of I would not care if it was an 05, 06, or 07. You can tell by looks if it had a good home before you. With three to pick from get the one that looks like the previous took the best care of.

Hi Johno and welcome from a fellow Aussie. I only purchased mine 2008 Swing on Australia day and my little Cupcake has done 28k's, and yes she is silver. I did find the weight comparision from my JP50 Monza a big difference going from a 50cc scooter - weighing 85 kilos with a top speed of 70klm per hour down hill compared to my Swing. I only weigh 60kgs and I am 5'6" tall. But where I live we dont have traffic lights not even that much traffic. But I love my Swing, and she is the best purchase I have made!! Where abouts in Oz are you from?

Hi Trishc i live in Dalmeny near Narooma on the south coast abot 340kl south of Sydney I brought a 125 cc scooter but didn't like the way it handled top speed 100 kl on flat road 80 kl uthats what the lady I got it from said. I sold that and brought a SYM Firenze 300i terific bike about 160 Kg handles well top speed from couple utube 150K bu I have never had it over 110. 2up still up hills easy that a good speed woulden't like to go much faster.
I was thinking about honda 600 but I need to sell my SYM first only 2970 Kl but things are hard to sell here in small coastal town. I am looking at couple hondas down your way if I buy one will get the bus down and drive it back. John

Tell me about trying to sell stuff in small coastal towns, I live at Inverloch just past Phillip Island, and have had my Monza scooter listed for 3 months now, and no bites yet. You will love your silver wing as I do mine. BTW i have only been riding since September last year and love it.

I live in Norfolk, VA, USA, but have a 2006 with a bit over 13,000 miles (21,000 km), have owned it for over 4 years now (bought it with around 3000 miles on it). If mine is any indication, you will be very pleased with its reliability! The only issue I have had with mine - and it is not a major one - is that the VMatic indicator light on the dash comes on sometimes, usually out on the highway. But I checked it all carefully, and had my belt replaced at 12K miles, and it still comes on, but is not indicative of any issue. So I learned to reset the light (it's covered here on this site, as well as in the shop manual I bought on-line). Other than that, it's been absolutely rock solid. I've had it on the Washington DC beltway doing 85 mph, in the shenandoah and Blue Ridge mountains, with wind and hairpin curves, and all kinds of other places in between. Compared to the motorcycle I rode for 4 years (Suzuki VStrom), I feel the SWing is way more stable in crosswinds, way more stable in general. I do not have ABS, but think it would be a great addition to my already nearly perfect ride!

BTW, I looked at and rode both the Burgman 400 and 650, and owned a Yamaha Majesty (the engine blew up, oil pump went bad). The Burgman 400 didn't have enough leg room for me. The 650 did, but for some reason, it felt a lot more bulky than the SWing, even though it is similar in weight, and the specs don't look that different. Coupled with concerns aboiut the drive train, I decided to look for a good used Honda, especially after the Majesty fiasco. In general, I like the Honda engineering, and I LOVE the Honda reliability (I had a 1985 Honda Elite 250 as my first ride, with 32K miles on it. It was a TANK! I sold it to a friend when I moved up).

Hi thank for the heads up on the burgman troubles does the 400 have the same transmition troubles with the CTV as the 650, if so I will have to tell my friend that has a 400, also is there any sign that thing are not right before the drive fails. I got a lot of usefull information from this forum about honda mods, the mirror extension is the first thing I will get, I only ridden a couple of scooters and they all show more of your elbows than the road behind. also what might be of interest I have made inquires the last honder sliverwing sold here in Australia was the 2009 model, I told parts are still available the drive belt is $160.00. only honda scooter sold in Aust now is the NC700 integra. for about $12,000.00, ther seems to be no where herein Au that sells aftermarket goodies Screen etc, thing I have brought from USA the postage is very high. jOHN

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John, the Burgman 400 does not have the troubles that the 650 does. The ctv of the 400 is about the same as we have on our Silverwing. The mirror extenders and the Givi AF214 are the best add ons you can do for the Silverwing.(in my opinion)

Hi I am going to have a look at the 2006 model silverwing I am thinking of buying. can any one tell me if the 2006 model have ABS brakes as standard or are they an extra when you buy the scooter new. is there any way I can tell when looking at the scooter if it has ABS brakes. John.

Hi John,

I have a 2006...Love that Delta Blue.

It's easy to tell if it has anti lock brakes, just look on the front wheel hub, on the brake side. If you will see a pulsar ring if it has anti lock brakes. If it has no pulsar ring, then it has regular brakes.

John,
If you don't get to buy a Silverwing and a Burgman 400 comes along you should seriously consider it. I have both the Silverwing (2008 model) and a Burgman 400 (2007 model). I have fitted a Givi Airflow screen to both and is the number one modification to do if the stock windscreen is fitted.

You'll enjoy both but the Silverwing wins as a touring scooter.

Cheers,

GHM-PM wrote:

Welcome John! I think you will really enjoy the SWing. I took mine on the freeway again today and it amazes me how smooth it is plus how easy to pass trucks etc. when necessary!

PLUS if memory serves (it may not) the 2006 is the only model to come in BLUE!!! I love that color!

Good luck.

Not sure about other years, but yes, the 06 is a beautiful BLUE

I have to admit that when I started looking for a used SW, I kind of hoped to find a silver one - my VStrom was blue, my car is blue. I wanted something different.

It turned out for the best - the blue really is great. I wouldn't trade it now for a silver one. But then, there aren't many things I would trade my scooter for! I also didn't worry about mileage - though I did end up finding one with low mileage in the end. If the scooter has been maintained, they are good to go for a very, very long time.

I have a close friend (the guy who bought my 1985 250 Elite) who also moved up to the SW - he got a 2002 with I think 15K miles on it. It had a few bad knicks from a low speed laydown by its elderly owner. But it was just cosmetic damage, and he has had no other major repairs with his, either. He is getting ready to ride his across the entire continental USA in several months. I would give anything to go with him!

Before I had my SW, I thought that type of ride was for epic heros with iron butts. But I totally could do it on the SW. For me, it is so comfortable to ride, hour after hoir, and day after day. My only complaint on it after sevarl longer rides, is that I wish it had a larger fuel tank, and longer cruising range, so I didn't have to worry so much when gas stations are few and far between.

I would imagine some of the Iron Butt riders can give you some tips on carrying extra petrol (gas). If that is the only thing stopping you then I say 'Go for it'
Would you ride back or get the train?

Cheers,

Well, there's the darn day job. And the daughter in college ($$$$$$$). Can't forget the mortgage, and the two dogs, and DH is pretty cool about my whole riding obsession, but haven't tested that limit! (See ya in a month or so, dear!).

But I won't have this day job forever!

RamblinRedHead,

You may want to tell your friend with the 2002 SWing to check the screws that hold his front fender on. There have been reports where they will loosen and fall out. This then will force the end of the fender to fall into the tire and flip the bike. I think they changed the screws that hold the front fender on between the years of 2002 to 2003.

A guy that rode with our group out here had that happen to him. So you may want to inform him of this issue. All he has to do is check for the screws to be tight. It has only happened a few times that I know of but it stops the front tire on a dime if this happens.

Thank you! I will definitely pass this advice along. That could really put a damper on a cross-country ride.......

Thanks for noticing the model year. I love this forum.

Hi fellow riders thanks for all the advice looks like I will have to give the silverwing a miss, has several cracks in the fairing and mudgard where it bolts onto front falk. Very rough scooter not as described I think he has been useing it as dirt bike. unfortunally there are not to many sw here in Australia. never seen or herd of any model after 2007. plenty of burgmans still sell new 2013 models. Might have to settile on bergman 400 until better sw comes along, thank for advice on 650 bergman troubles will stear well clear of 650. there are plenty of 2007 models with 8 or 10 thousand Kilomiters on them at resonable price with ABS brakes. any advice from members on what to look for on the 400 would lover to hear what you think. John

Hi Johno1, Mine is a 2008 and she is in perfect condition and when I purchased her she only had 27K's on the speedo. I saw a real neat looking one in at Honda Seaford last Saturday had 47K's on the clock the Honda dealer wants $5500 for it. And it is silver.

Hi trishc I will contact seaford Honda, the silverwing I looked at ever time the seller sent me photos I found more crack and dint's on it. in general conversation he tell me his mates ride a lot of dirt bikes. I think for all the small cracks and damage to the scooter, you don't get riding on the road, I think they have been rideing on the dirt trails. There is no silverwings currently for sale in NSW there a couple in Vic And Quensland. Just to look at these would mean a 1600or 2000 Kl round trip there are 4 burgman 400 2007 models with under 8,000 K on clock about 200 K from home and aproxemently $1500 to $2,000 cheaper . There are plenty of Burgmans for sale NSW.I have found a good 400 burgman only 2 hours from home . I will get the bus down tomorrow and Ride it home if as good as described and photos sent to me, one lady owner. John

Trishc,
$5500 for a SWing with 47K miles is way to expensive. I paid $2300 for my 2002 with 42K miles.

Trish,

That seems like a lot of money to me too. I know you are in Australia so maybe that is considered ok. Here in the states it would be too much.

Hi I have given up getting a silverwing there are not to many here in Australia I have tool the advise and brought a burgman 400 2007 model with ABS 8,000 kilometers on the clock Imaculate condition about $1500 to 2000 dollars to the same model silverwing if I could find one. there are none fore sale within 1800 kilimoters round trip to look at. The scooter run beautifully but when I put it up on the center stand and spin the rear wheel by hand I here a clicking sound, is that normal. I never had any sound with my SYM scooter. any help would be appreciated. In regards to price of things here in Aust a drive belt for a silverwing her cost $160. I read somewhere it cost $120 in USA.
John

It,s the same price in Canada ,Just bought one for $161.72. Was able to get down to $155.33 taxes in. To bad about the Swing, and good luck with your 400 Burgman. I think the clicking sound is normal. Someone else can confirm that it,s normal.

I bought the belt a few weeks ago (yet to fit it) from my local shop (Chiswick Honda main dealer) for £125 and that was with a 10% discount otherwise it would have been £138!

You guys get them cheaper!

johno1 wrote:

Hi the scooter run beautifully but when I put it up on the center stand and spin the rear wheel by hand I here a clicking sound, is that normal. I never had any sound with my SYM scooter. any help would be appreciated. In regards to price of things here in Aust a drive belt for a silverwing her cost $160. I read somewhere it cost $120 in USA.
John

John,

Join BurgmanUSA forum, if you haven't already. Info about that clicking noise maybe on there. It is possible it was the brake pads. PM me with your email address, I have information available for the Burgman.

Cheers,

RArch wrote:

I bought the belt a few weeks ago (yet to fit it) from my local shop (Chiswick Honda main dealer) for £125 and that was with a 10% discount otherwise it would have been £138!

Wemoto are selling a non-OEM belt at about £70/$110 plus postage. Haven't tried one myself, but Wemoto do have a good reputation.
http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/honda/fjs_600_silverwing_scooter_2_a3_d3/02-05/picture/drive_belt/

23100-MCT-003 is the OEM part number for drive belt for my 2012. Not sure if it is same for all SWings. In any event, doing a quick search on Google and Bing I find loads of places selling the Honda belt for $112.00- $120. USD Bikebandit is $116 for example. All this to say I wouldn't bother to get a Gates belt for almost the same as a genuine Honda unit. My 2 cents.

GHM-PM wrote:

23100-MCT-003 is the OEM part number for drive belt for my 2012. Not sure if it is same for all SWings. In any event, doing a quick search on Google and Bing I find loads of places selling the Honda belt for $112.00- $120. USD Bikebandit is $116 for example. All this to say I wouldn't bother to get a Gates belt for almost the same as a genuine Honda unit. My 2 cents.

Glenn, you aren't living in 'RipOff Britain', £138 pounds equals $215

Cheers,

tarmacburner2 wrote:

GHM-PM wrote:

23100-MCT-003 is the OEM part number for drive belt for my 2012. Not sure if it is same for all SWings. In any event, doing a quick search on Google and Bing I find loads of places selling the Honda belt for $112.00- $120. USD Bikebandit is $116 for example. All this to say I wouldn't bother to get a Gates belt for almost the same as a genuine Honda unit. My 2 cents.

Glenn, you aren't living in 'RipOff Britain', £138 pounds equals $215

Cheers,

Ouch, you have my sympathy...

"Trishc,
$5500 for a SWing with 47K miles is way to expensive. I paid $2300 for my 2002 with 42K miles."

That was for 47 thousand kilometres not miles. Besides here in Australia they are valued at approximatley $8500 aussie dollars (replacement/market value) Johno1 was correct they are as rare hen's teeth here in Australia especially on the East Coast don't know about Kurt's West Coast.

GHM-PM wrote:

tarmacburner2 wrote:

GHM-PM wrote:

23100-MCT-003 is the OEM part number for drive belt for my 2012. Not sure if it is same for all SWings. In any event, doing a quick search on Google and Bing I find loads of places selling the Honda belt for $112.00- $120. USD Bikebandit is $116 for example. All this to say I wouldn't bother to get a Gates belt for almost the same as a genuine Honda unit. My 2 cents.

Glenn, you aren't living in 'RipOff Britain', £138 pounds equals $215

Cheers,

Ouch, you have my sympathy...

Bugger your sympathy, send cash!

Cheers,

johno1 wrote:

Hi I am going to have a look at the 2006 model silverwing I am thinking of buying. can any one tell me if the 2006 model have ABS brakes as standard or are they an extra when you buy the scooter new. is there any way I can tell when looking at the scooter if it has ABS brakes. John.

I have a 2006 model in NZ and it does not have ABS. That does not worry me because I have ridden for over 60 years with no ABS...!!Keep the rubber down.