Number of posts : 3 Location : Galway , Ireland Points : 3357 Registration date : 2015-09-14
Subject: Hello! - new user Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:57 pm
Hi
My name is Liam, I live in Galway Ireland and have been driving a FSJ Swing 600 for 3years now - I love my Swing - commute 100miles round trip to work each day, so spend lots of time on the bike.
I was interested in posts about vbelt change as my bike had 10k miles on it when I bought it and now has 36k on it with no vbelt replacement! - I am assuming the factory fitted belt is still in there! - I was anxious to change but did not know how - read Jeff' s guide and am going to tackle the job asap! - one question though, do you need to change the pins every time you change the belt? - I have not purchased new pins for this change.
Thanks
P.S
Great forum, look forward to finding out a lot more about my swing!
Dale N. Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 1999 Age : 78 Location : Princeton, MN Points : 6070 Registration date : 2014-02-13
Subject: Re: Hello! - new user Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:07 pm
Welcome Liam to the best SWing site on the net. My wife was part Irish but about the only thing I know about Ireland is Daniel O'Donnell and Mary Duff. LOVE their singing! Oh. And Shamrocks. I heard something about them once.
You'll find lots of friendly people here willing to lend their knowledge about the SilverWing whenever you want/need to do your own work on it.
hotwings Silver Wing Expert
Number of posts : 876 Age : 54 Location : Ontario Points : 5561 Registration date : 2012-04-29
Subject: Re: Hello! - new user Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:11 pm
Hello Liam. What do you mean by "pins"? I just changed my belt and don't recall seeing pins?!
gremlin Super Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 227 Age : 72 Location : Brisbane, Australia Points : 3777 Registration date : 2015-04-09
Subject: Re: Hello! - new user Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:47 pm
I presume that you are referring to the variator rollers. Even if they still look good, I would use the opportunity to fit Dr Pulley sliders; a new belt and sliders have made my Swing a lot more responsive.
model28a Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2085 Age : 71 Location : St.Pete.FL. Points : 7553 Registration date : 2010-02-03
Subject: Re: Hello! - new user Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:54 pm
Galway Swing'er welcome to the best Silverwing forum on the web. I agree with gremlin, I'd put Dr Pulley sliders in while you're in there. Didn't the check belt light come on at 16,000 miles? I add the paragraph below for most new members because there's a lot of information in the links and may save you some work. You'll find you can do anything you need or want with the service manual and help from this forum. Here are some links(3 below in blue)that will help you learn a lot about your Silverwing. If you can't find what you need in the links below the search on this forum works good, and if you still need help just ask and someone will do what they can to answer your questions.
Number of posts : 141 Age : 56 Location : Chicago Suburbs Points : 3561 Registration date : 2015-09-04
Subject: Re: Hello! - new user Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:39 pm
Welcome Liam,
Been to Ireland including Galway, beautiful Country and so many kind and friendly people. That's a long commute on a daily basis, but you have some beautiful countryside to ride around, so it must be enjoyable.
Not near that many miles on my Wing, but due to the age, I am thinking it will be a winter project. There is a pretty good video on YouTube the shows the procedure and it doesn't look too bad at all. The only real issue is getting a variator tool (eBay for under $20) and otherwise it looks to be just a lot of bolt removal and replacement, not too much to it.
Best of luck to you!
exavid Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2658 Age : 81 Location : Medford, Oregon Points : 8393 Registration date : 2009-07-17
Subject: Re: Hello! - new user Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:55 am
Hello Liam! Changing the belt isn't a difficult job the only thing you'll need besides a normal set of tools is a holder to get the nut off the variator. Like many others I made one out of a piece of 1"x 1/8" steel strap and three bolts. I'm pretty sure there's a sketch on the forum here of one someone made, do a search and you'll see it. A torque wrench is also a need. Less than an hour's job once you've done it. The Dr. Pulley rollers are a good investment. I installed a set in my second SW.
JeffR Site Admin
Number of posts : 2598 Age : 65 Location : Bay Area, Ca Points : 8664 Registration date : 2008-12-19
Subject: Re: Hello! - new user Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:56 am
Galway Swing'er! wrote:
Hi
My name is Liam, I live in Galway Ireland and have been driving a FSJ Swing 600 for 3years now - I love my Swing - commute 100miles round trip to work each day, so spend lots of time on the bike.
I was interested in posts about vbelt change as my bike had 10k miles on it when I bought it and now has 36k on it with no vbelt replacement! - I am assuming the factory fitted belt is still in there! - I was anxious to change but did not know how - read Jeff' s guide and am going to tackle the job asap! - one question though, do you need to change the pins every time you change the belt? - I have not purchased new pins for this change.
Thanks
P.S
Great forum, look forward to finding out a lot more about my swing!
Liam,
My Pictorial shows my SWing with the J. Costa variator, which has pins in it. You should have the stock variator with rollers, or if lucky the Dr Pulley Sliders. You may want to replace the rollers in case they might have flattened out a bit. But if you still have the rollers you should think about upgrading to the Dr Pulley sliders (26 gr). But I would just follow the Pictorial to change the belt and maybe change the rollers at a later time.
exavid Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2658 Age : 81 Location : Medford, Oregon Points : 8393 Registration date : 2009-07-17
Subject: Re: Hello! - new user Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:57 am
Yep, I'll second that, the 26gr. sliders worked great.
Galway Swing'er! Scooter Rider
Number of posts : 3 Location : Galway , Ireland Points : 3357 Registration date : 2015-09-14
Subject: Re: Hello! - new user Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:55 pm
Thanks guys for the replies -really showing my "greenness" when it comes to knowledge about the parts - the "pins" I was referring to the variator pins shown on page 14 - 22 of Jeffr's guide which fit on the variator - are these separate to the 26gr sliders? or is this just two different names for the same parts?!
We don't have access to as many retail outlets for bikes as you guys do - so most of my replacement parts are bought through ebay - mostly from USA - so there is normally a long wait for them to arrive. Good motorbike mechanics, never mind guys who know Swings very well are hard to find in Ireland, we are restricted to using a small number of retailers that probably are using their monopoly of the market to their advantage.
"Hi Yo" Silver Wing Guru
Number of posts : 2940 Age : 75 Location : Winnsboro, Texas, U.S.A. Points : 8553 Registration date : 2010-02-17
Subject: Re: Hello! - new user Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:27 pm
exavid wrote:
Hello Liam! Changing the belt isn't a difficult job the only thing you'll need besides a normal set of tools is a holder to get the nut off the variator. Like many others I made one out of a piece of 1"x 1/8" steel strap and three bolts. I'm pretty sure there's a sketch on the forum here of one someone made, do a search and you'll see it. A torque wrench is also a need. Less than an hour's job once you've done it. The Dr. Pulley rollers are a good investment. I installed a set in my second SW.
I believe Hotwings posted a holder. Look under Maintenance, Tips and Hints and then New Belt and Variator Tool.