Forum appearance and organization will be changing.

Hopefully around the weekend of Dec 17th, we will be changing the categories hierarchy to display only the first level. To see the forums, you will click on specific category.

The number of top categories will be shortened by moving under a category and some new categories will be created ... for example "Integra" and "SWT400/SWT600".

We may make the changes over several days ... so we can check and test the look an feel.

This thread can be used to discuss any questions.

Change is good. Change is good. If I keep repeating it, maybe I'll believe it. I do know that you want the best for the forum, so I will keep an open mind to any changes. Thank you and the moderators for all the work you do.

Brings to mind the old saw "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I, like Hi Yo, will reserve judgement.

:flower:

I'll also reserve judgement until I see the result, but I have stated many times that the layout and operation of this forum is the best of any forum I have ever seen. If we are changing it to look more like most forums, that will be a big negative for me. The 'Latest topics' for example, is one of the best features and I use it all the time. I guess I also have to wonder why we are doing this?

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GaryL wrote:

The 'Latest topics' for example, is one of the best features and I use it all the time

Latest topics will remain unchanged.

Click the "Forum" button
Under the "Forum" section there are 23 possible selections

Under the "Forum" section there is a title "Main Silver Wing Chat Section", click the title "Main Silver Wing Chat Section". If you recount there are only 5 possible selections ... this is what is changing.

The number of selection at the top level will be greatly reduced ... allowing navigation (if you do not use Latest topics) to key sections. Then some new top sections will be created

1) Integra
2) SWT* ... or SWT400/SWT600

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bigbird wrote:

It's too hard to navigate through layers of subjects now.

You can either

multi-click navigate to the subsection(s)

-OR-

"one click" directly to the subsection from the main home page.

your choice.

The only section that is two clicks away is
Riding -> Regional

So we can add more regional sections.

bigbird wrote:

And why wouldn't you put the headings in some logical order?

If you click any section, you will find there are in number of posts in reverse order. Therefore the highest utilized are at the top.

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bigbird wrote:

I'm not fond of change for the sake of change.

The SilverWing600 forum was organized purely for the Silver Wing.

Some regions offer other Honda scooter models (and maybe our future)
- SWT400 / SWT600
- Integra

If Honda discontinues the Honda Silver OR if forum members choose a different Honda scooter model other than the Silver Wing.

Reorganizing the forum, allows these other Honda scooters and their members to freely share the same as we do for the Silver Wing.

We will all benefit from their knowledge or information.

Gee, do ya' mean that now some of my posts will get posted????
That will be a real change....

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Bill,

I think you did a great job. Looks allot cleaner and works well for what it is...a forum.

Don't change back. Others will get used too it sooner or later.

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Why do you feel the need for change? There's only a couple of members on here that have the SW-T 600, and they hardly ever post. I don't think anyone has a SW-T 400 and that's been available in Europe since 2009. At present neither model is available to riders in the USA, Canada, or the UK and won't be in 2012 as far as we know.

As for the Honda Integra is it a scooter, or an automatic motorcycle like the Aprilia Mana 850? If it sells some one will start a forum solely for the Integra anyway.

My primary complaint is the size of the lead picture. About half as big would be ideal -- no matter what the subject.

:flower:

My input.

The Forum is the SilverWing600. So why digress into other fields. I came here because it was a site specifically for the Honda Silver Wing why digress from what we have always commented upon the site winning formulae.

I do agree a change is as good as a rest but this is evolving away from what I believe the site to be. It is becoming more general than specific.

Sorry if the creators of the new image disagree but I feel it will attract more members but of a more general nature and therefore less informative. If I wanted a general 'Scooter' site I would go to one, it is seriously nice to be part of a forum that is dedicated to Honda's Silver Wing 600.

As an aside I do agree with the size of the top of the page picture - way too big!!

EErrr dont put Kurts Kornrer on top, or we will have to specialise in Honda Humour!... wayyyy too specialised. :not worthy:

Must be the meds ... I had noticed that the categories had been reduced in number and the shortened list was cleaner than before. And I haven't had a problem navigating around the topics yet. May be because I don't spend all day on here. I guess I am in with the group that is waiting to see problems that show up.

Change for change sake is not a good thing. But doing something because "we have always done it this way" is not a good thing either. I am not running for "Chief Administrator" of this forum. I enjoy being an "indian" and will go along with what ever is put up. The history of this forum has been very friendly and that doesn't JUST HAPPEN. Someone has to go along with things they may not agree with sometime. Kinda like a real family does.

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Wow... big bird used the "N" word... I guess my little Deb is a Nazi when she asks me to take out the trash and all the other things she asks me to do. I always suspected she grew that mustache for a reason.

Hard for me to compare getting along with "family" and being asked to walk into a gas chamber... bad example. not even close to "kinda like" the same thing. No one is going to die here. Lemming or no...

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Thanks for the sympathy. I have met face to face with 9 or 10 forum members, spoke on the phone to 5 others and have had enough PMs with another half dozen. ALL of them are nice people. NONE of them agree with every thing I say or think (thank goodness for that). None of them would I consider as less of a friend because they want to do things differently than me. Certainly no Nazis in my circle of friends or family.

Heck, I don't even think you are an egocentric dirty stinking slob just because one of my friends calls you one. I make up my own mind about the people I hang out with. That goes for real family or this "distraction".

I am not going to keep this going any farther. We both have had our say as far as I am concerned.

I do sincerely wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and pray for a good year in 2012.

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Behave the pair of you, and in the words of that dude from San Dimas, California, Bill S. Preston Esq. "Be excellent to each other".

The forum appears cleaner and a bit faster. If we didn't allow change then someone would have poo-pooed the wheel. 'Evolution not Revolution' as one car manufacturer puts it (and they make damned fine cars - I have two of them!)

Happy holidays everyone.

Cheers,

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bigbird wrote:

How does one become an Esquire?
I kind of like the sound of Bigbird, Esquire.

I think that it applies to someone who passed the bar (not one who went in, tho)

:flower:

Terry... why worry about 12/21/12? I hope to see 12/21/11...

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Waspie wrote:

My input.

The Forum is the SilverWing600. So why digress into other fields. I came here because it was a site specifically for the Honda Silver Wing why digress from what we have always commented upon the site winning formulae.

I do agree a change is as good as a rest but this is evolving away from what I believe the site to be. It is becoming more general than specific.

Sorry if the creators of the new image disagree but I feel it will attract more members but of a more general nature and therefore less informative. If I wanted a general 'Scooter' site I would go to one, it is seriously nice to be part of a forum that is dedicated to Honda's Silver Wing 600.

As an aside I do agree with the size of the top of the page picture - way too big!!

I have to agree with "Waspie" and "bigbird" in that adding other scooter types dilutes the content of this site. Let's keep it SilverWing 600 and let the other folks start theirs and worry about their own future. I haven't perused all the detailed changes but overall it does look a little cleaner.

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joncallihan wrote:

bigbird wrote:

How does one become an Esquire?
I kind of like the sound of Bigbird, Esquire.

I think that it applies to someone who passed the bar (not one who went in, tho)

:flower:

'Esquire' is a person who owns their own property. Usually used for someone who has neither a different title (Lord, Sir, etc) or doesn't have other letters behing their name. For instance I have 'B.A. (Hons) that I could put behind mine. I also own my property outright so people can use 'Esq.' Not used very much nowadays.
When writing to someone in the States I put 'Col.' behind their name, this shows they are a 'colonial'.

Cheers,

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All my friends in Rison (all three of them) call me "your majesty". I try to be humble about it, but it makes them feel important to have a royal friend, so, I just let them go on...

Wait a minute... maybe it is royal pain in the arse ... same thing to me.

Sir Bigbird has a certain je ne sais quoi about it.

Cheers,

Back on topic, I see the new sections are topping up nicely, Still one for the Integra!!! And a whole four posts for the SWT400/600.

I can see the SWT being taken up but the Integra!!!!! WTF?

Pleeeeeeeease lets not change too much.

This Forum is not only informative, but also ENTERTAINING!!! HaHa!

Waspie wrote:

I can see the SWT being taken up but the Integra!!!!! WTF?

I'm still not sure whether the Integra will appeal to bikers or scooter riders, and bikers have never got what the Silver Wing and maxi scooters are about. If the Integra goes down the same road to obscurity as the Honda DN-01, there won't be any need for a separate section for it.

Waspie wrote:

I can see the SWT being taken up but the Integra!!!!! WTF?

If you click the links from https://www.silverwing600.com/t4258-2012-countries-selling-not-selling-honda-silverwing#39100

Honda has the Integra classified as Scooter displaying them with the SWT400 and SWT600.

honda_silver wrote:

Waspie wrote:

I can see the SWT being taken up but the Integra!!!!! WTF?

Honda has the Integra classified as Scooter displaying them with the SWT400 and SWT600.

But that does't make it a Silver Wing!

I can park my Astra car next to a Insignia but it won't make it one.

Can't we just stick to what it says on the tin 'silverwing600.com'

Im so confused ,and for that I will confuse you again. :lol!:
And a other thing. Every time I switch forum topic I have to adjust my
screen . Did I do that? Im so confused.

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tinman wrote:

Im so confused ,and for that I will confuse you again. :lol!:
And a other thing. Every time I switch forum topic I have to adjust my
screen . Did I do that? Im so confused.

That could be a function of someone pasting a very long internet link. Or it could be you have the sort of fingers that really screws with the PC you try to use.

(Normally the latter with me!)

You could be right.I have a MacBook Pro and I have screwy fingers .I am new to the Mac. I am so confuse.

Hi "honda_silver",

I'll join the "dead-horse-beaters" society by adding one more comment...
After giving all the 'posts' another looky-see, I also wonder if maybe a vote on existing changes might not be a bad idea; or maybe even a selection table like Kurt put up for his wasp stings (hope you're better now, Kurt). If for no other reason than to serve as a guage to use on any decisions you may or may not want to make.

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